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Sex and Pornography

When you first started out, it was simple curiosity.

-What is that?
-What are they doing?
-Why does it feel good?

Simple questions like this will soon land you into a place where you continually want and desire things that make you physically feel good. Every time you dwell further into porn and sex, you will be left wanting more, something different, something new, each new time you begin whatever process you do to reach your new sexual high.

Like anything else, sex and pornography can be an addiction; like food, drugs or alcohol. Like any other addiction, if you do not stop and take control of yourself, it will not only affect your life, but the life of your significant other. Then shortly after your spouse/boy friend/girl friend has left you for cheating on them, if you continue, it will affect other loved ones in your family or your close friends. You will be falling in a never ending chasm. You will always desire more things that give you a new high, things that are different. This normally leads to new fetishes and weird and sick sexual desires that are easily accessible today, including:

  • Beastiality

  • Incest

  • Orgies

  • Desires for children
  • Sexual sin hurts everyone. No matter who accepts to be with you. You soon will not be able to keep a long and loving relationship because you will push your significant other to the overwhelming feeling that they aren't good enough. That no matter what they do to please and pleasure you, it won't be enough.

    Until you realize that the problem isn't with them, but with you, you will never be in an unconditional love relationship that comes with marriage. Marriage is true love between a man and woman. Any other form of this simply isn't the nurturing and loving relationship that a family won't be able to work with. Something will always eating at you desiring a true love relationship. You will forever be searching for your true love and until you come to the grips of your addiction, you won't ever find it.

    Ask yourself these questions:
    -Can you not keep a relationship due to your ever-wanting sexual desires?
    -Do you enjoy sex with multiple partners?
    -Do you want sex more and more no matter what you do or who you are with?
    -Are you wanting to do sexual things with your partner that they are adamant in not doing?
    -Do you push your own desires and wants on your partner without their consent?
    -Do you continually find things to arouse you or make things more interesting every time you have sex?
    -Are you experimenting with the same sex?
    -Are you looking at anyone who is ten years your younger than your own age?
    -Do children (17 years or younger) arouse you more then adults your own age?

    If you confirmed any of the above answers with a "Yes", than you have an issue with lust, sex or pornography and you may even be addicted.

    There are a lot of things that you can do to help bring you out of this life of never ending want and desire.

    Counseling is of course available. Ask your friends, those who have been there no matter what has happened, for help. Go to someone whom you trust who will love you no matter what. Go to a church or the pastoral staff, they might even have programs available to you to help get you out of addiction.

    There are plenty of website and other resources to assist you. Search Google for resources that are available. Search for keyword:

    “Sexual addiction”
    “Pornography addiction”

    Here are more well known sites that aid in getting lives back together from addiction:

    XXX Church
    Teen Challenge USA

    Sex, Lust and Pornography are nothing to take lightly. With today’s society so caught up in the body and how everyone looks, in how they dress or even how the handle themselves in public places, it seems that you can’t get away from sexually explicit images, shows and movies. It will be hard, it will be tough, but you have to get help to get away from any addiction. Sexual addiction is no exception. Don’t put it off, get help today!

    God bless you all and those who have addictions,
    Johnathan

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    # jopel 2008-09-30 13:04
    Ah That is a bit of a stretch... Show me some proof of that. Proof... Do you know what that is? Or is it all about the religion that started in alexendra as a form of public policy, with the ideas paraphrased from older religions. Read a book, please please please because you people are really causing problems in the world.
    The article is just religious based alarmism.
    I love porn, have for a long time, but have never even considered anything you suggested, except orgys. Nothing wrong with that.
    Am actually very moral, more so than most around me.
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    # LoverofGod 2011-01-02 08:14
    Apparently you are not a Christian.
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    # Johnathan Morlock 2008-09-30 16:01
    Welcome Jopel,

    I do not consider it a stretch...

    Consider this, ever heard of weed as being a gateway drug? Porn is just like that...

    Let me ask you another question... When you first desired porn, were you at first only looking at a woman? A single woman?

    When you get into it, it opens doors into a ton of other 'varieties' that bring you to new desires. For some it is animals. For others it is orgies... like yourself. And for the twisted... children.

    I never said that it lead to children everytime, only that it opens the door.

    Let me ask you another question... is your desire for the naked person, also for teens? The younger the better?

    A big portion of porn sites out there have a desire to show young teens, some of which are underage or not even teens.

    So, do you question yourself when you look at a young girl, whether she is even of age?

    Any version of porn is a gateway into other gross versions.

    It is a gateway into other things that you originally weren't even interested in. But instead you have become curious and are not not looking at single women, but now multiple and maybe even men.

    And, yes, I know what proof is. I can read a dictionary. If I couldn't, do you think that I could even type or create this site?

    Now, as for your so called 'religion'. That is your definition as well as the world's. Do you even see a difference? A difference between the world and 'religion'?

    My lost friend, there is a difference. You see my Christian faith makes me want to be more than I already am. To desire better things for my life and my family.

    As you and the world suggest, porn is OK. The exploitation of the body is something that is normal and is greatly promoted across all of the media.

    I however desire more than simple desires of pleasure.

    I want to teach my little girls that there are things more important than sex, or a house, or money, or even themselves.

    What does that mean?

    As you've obviously pointed out that sex is something important to you.

    There is more to this world than sex.

    There are more important things than having stuff like a neat car or a new house.

    All will pass away that comes from this world... no matter how much you paid for it or how long you suffered for it... that includes that computer that you spend countless hours of oogling over women, even girl that aren't of age without your knowledge.

    Money, oh the all power dollar. When you die is it worth anything to you? Of course not. It is dead, much like your soul is when your god is money and all you do is work and worship it to only get more, to end the end die like the rest with nothing to show for it.

    And finally, how can I say that there are things more important than yourself?

    Simple... my life is already paid for, so are my children's and so is yours my friend.

    You see, I desire something more important than all of the money, wealth, popularity and girls of this world.

    I desire to be forever. My desire is to love my God and my Lord and to spread His word as He commands of me.

    What you may, or may not know, is that Christ died for you, for all of those girls you watch, and for me and my family.

    What does that mean?

    Simple, as we have fallen from the we had connection from God, we have become lovers of ourselves. Because we were meant to love. Except we aren't to love this world or ourselves, but God.

    And everytime you decide to love yourself by pleasing yourself with naked pictures or movies of once innocent youth, you are damning yourself to Hell each time.

    All you have to do is ask for forgiveness from Christ, give your sins to Him and you will be forgiven. When you believe that Christ died on that Cross 2000 years ago, you become something bigger than anyone or anything else. You become a child of God. As God promises... eternal life, health, wisdom and knowledge. Give the desires you have for the rotting flesh that you call a body to God.

    We all are rotten before God who is perfect.

    And as you might not be aware or not... the US was founded on a God policy.... The Bible and other God centered ideas lead to the Constitution and the Declaration of Independance.

    Check out: http://www.wallbuilders.com

    As for us 'religious' folks are the ones causing problems? We are the ones trying to correct them while you and other radical liberals are creating them. Hence the public school system, Planned Parenthood and other ideas and organizations that kill and destroy.

    And another thing about porn... are you married?

    Have you considered the impact porn has on the woman you love? I am giving an example... as I do not know if you are married or even like women... or if you are a women, if you like men... doesn't matter.

    If you are married and of the opposite sex... porn doesn't nothing but place desires in your mind and heart of things that are untrue and are disgraceful to your spouse.

    Do you think that if your spouse found out about your addiction to porn while you were dating, would they still be dating you?

    As for you being moral... the world see someone as following part of the ten commandments as being moral... where as to God you are a sinner and guilty to die... as sin leads to death... which is the reason why we die in the first place... because we, mankind, brought sin into this world and into our bodies.

    How is that possible? Or am I making this stuff up?

    My friend... you read THE book... The Bible. This will not only confirm all I have said, but will also teach you more than you think you might know about it.

    Accept my words as you wish. Please post more, even if you are mad at me or not...

    God's word is life, eternal.

    God bless you Jopel and your family,
    Johnathan
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    # itinerant 2009-02-14 21:07
    A heady and toxic subject if I may say!

    Basically my veiws are found in between first you have to understand that pornography is not illegal and has not been made illegal by state law.

    Only certain forms of pornography that might be considered harmful or degrading by the majority are illegal.

    They set parameters of what is allowed and what is not, and the breach just means prosecution with the set penalty.

    That isn't a defence of pornography but it is a statement of the fact of more less what society has put in the law and agreed to what is a criminal offence.

    I don't think anyone reasonable would agree that it is ok to exploit minors. They cannot possibly understand or know what they are either being forced or persauded to do. There is nothing good or even natural in that. It is very damaging to them they can become sick people enacting the same violence on others. This results in bystanders, getitng hurt.

    Some people think it is ok to practice other things but basically it is safe to say natural relations are considered to be between one man and one woman.

    Ifyou then encounter someone who take a different attitude you aren't going to get on with them in wider society. If you agree or disagree with someone on one issue you will disagree with them on every issue. You will not be able to socialise normally with that person because basically people get along based on common interests.

    I don't personally produce or distribute pornography and I wouldn't want but evidently some people do. They will defend their freedom to do so in the same way drinkers will defend their right to have a drink even if it causes others to become alcoholics.

    Prhobition didn't work people rebelled and saw money to be made which brought about the gangster culture resulting in even more deaths.

    Basically it is down to a refusal of people to choose what is good for not themselves only but others. How can you divide the issue?

    According to the law it is ok for them to create a rule that says we can do what we want even it if it may be harmful or offensive to others but it's not ok to act in a way that you know you will have not brought a corrupting influence to someone else?

    So you cannot be blamed for having brought problems to someone else if you sure that you have not introduced them to something that will have consequences to them, even if it's not illegal.

    One of the big problems in all this is relationships to others. How do women feel about it, some of them obviously consent to participate in it and others do not. So say you are in this permissive culture but then your girlfriend take a strong stand against it. Where do you stand on it you didn't discuss it when you were getting to know each other and just assumed it wouldn't be an issue.

    So the girlfriend blows her top because you haven't really thought about it and don't know what to say, she thinks men are all the same and only want one thing. The end of your relationship.

    That brings more problems to you when you haven't even really said if you approve one way or the other. Pornography is so common she thinks you are lying and knows that everyone has seen pornographic or sensual images.

    People who go to india see all these hindu idols and statues these great big buildings and you realise that people's attitude to sex is different in different cultures.

    You can't even go to a cafe and have a fried breakfast without seeing a topless woman in the newspaper that someone is reading. You don't really want to be confronted with alluring images everywhere you go You don't want to be accused you don't want to be blamed but it is inevitable that offences do and will arise because of that issue.

    Then the whole issue of how people deal with those offences will arise. Many of them think it is their duty to carry out vengeance on others. Some of them are sactioned by state law, some of them are vigilates. People who veiw the state as inadequate.

    In religious societies they are not above killing people for offences like adultery, or homosexuality such as the time when Jesus intervened at the stoning of a woman who was caught in adultery. They believed according to law they should kill such people.

    Another woman he spoke to had had 5 husbands and the man she was with was not, actually her husband according to his definition of marriage. What he did he tell her, do not sin any more.

    What did he mean? obviously people were willing to tolerate her in her part of town even if others in the other neighbourhood would have put her to death.

    Other problems where cannot get a living they give up their education to become lap dancers. Rich men will pay woman hundreds of bucks an hour just to strip and dance on a stage for them.

    Solomon himself had 700 concubines in his harem although he was said to have erred from the command God gave to him.

    Basically you have to consider what is going to be offensive to others.

    Paul said that if meat would cause his brother to stumble he would never eat it again, what is your attitude to others do you can if you trip someone else up are you out looking to bring some evil upon their heads because you are vengeful at the world?

    In all this the bible says leave wrath to God. You cannot control what others do you can only seek to protect your loved ones from things that are harmful to them but even then, people have their own rather strong willed wishes to impose upon others.

    They will say it is not illegal to manufacture porn so they will just think of it as their right to do so, by enticing others with the high rewards. Basically the rule is what the rich want, they are willing to pay for so what's your problem?

    The problem is the person who gave up their education to strip deprives society of their rights, to have a wife, a mother, to be a respectable person in the eyes of others.

    People seem to know their own rights which includes hounding others if they do not agree.

    As far as I was aware the acceptable conduct in the scripture was to turn away from such people and leave them to their own fate. Everybody has an equal choice and far be it from me to deprive them of their rights even if they end up killing themselves.

    They don't want people to intefere, fine no problem when you're ready to get help and are almost dead maybe we can talk about it again!

    Personally I do not go out looking for a reason to find fault in others. But what I do know is that people will fight to protect their loved ones and I know if someone was planning to hurt my loved ones I would do whatever it takes to protect them. So all in all the overall advice and guidance ought to be just as the bible states:

    The love of the neighbour works no ill-therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

    If you're going out to give people a problem expect it back! On the other hand if you wish to remain clear of those problems then you must make it plain that you have no ill intention towards others.

    It is unjust to blame someone for a problem they did not create. It is in the world and there many people producing and manufacturing porn and if they can earn thousands of dollars the easy way they will. You are not obligated to participate or agree with them. People have the right of refusal even if it means working in the KFC, flipping burgers and all the rest of it.

    Basically are looking for a way to support themselves and if they fail to form a community because of many offences.. all have lost.
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    # itinerant 2009-02-14 22:09
    So then let me ask: Have you provided?

    Have you ensured each man may have his own to ensure the avoidance to temptation?

    1Co 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

    Have you made sure he can has he a roof has he adequate provision for himself and his family or the means to support them?

    Does he have it all with bells and whistles and will never lack anything?

    2Co 8:15 As it is written, "Whoever gathered much had nothing left over, and whoever gathered little had no
    lack."

    And he said to them:

    Mat 23:19 You blind men! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
    Mat 23:20 So whoever swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
    Mat 23:21 And whoever swears by the temple swears by it and by him who dwells in it.
    Mat 23:22 And whoever swears by heaven swears by the throne of God and by him who sits upon it.


    Mat 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.

    If your eye offends you pluck it out and throw it away!

    Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

    You will see people doing things that you don't like there are so many ignore them if it is such a great strain upon your conscience! Be satisfied with yourself that you have done nothing to them and cannot be blamed.

    Heb 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.
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    # Johnathan Morlock 2009-02-25 10:04
    First off I want to apologize for not commenting on this earlier... been busy coding...

    Agreed, Pornography isn't illegal. According to man's law.

    But to God's law it is. It is considered lust/lustful. That is all that matters, what God says.

    Pertaining to what is legal and illegal...

    How many time in human history have we gone ahead and made something legal that wasn't good for us... just because is legal doesn't mean that it is good or morally right.

    For example, cigarettes. They are NOT healthly in any streatch. they don't even have a medical purpose. they kills many people. yet they are legal... all because of money.

    Slavery, although it was legal at one point in time in American history, we've seen the error of our ways and now it isn't legal.

    often Man doesn't know what is good for itself other than what they think is good because it feels good or gets us something we want. Only with God can we realize that something isn't or is good for us.

    As for what is natural... look at biology...

    I read a very intersting article from Institute of Creation Reasearch (ICR) about what happens when sperm and an egg mett and the process of creating them. You can readit here:
    http://www.icr.org/article/human-reproduction/

    Anyway, it clearly shows that inter-species 'relations' don't work as they shouldn't happen anyway. And obviously the 'relations' between the same gender obviously won't show any good fruit as parts of the body and function are wasted.

    As for getting along with other who disagree, that is their choice to either debate heathily about these thigns or not. I am willing to befriend anyone, no matter how different our views. A prime example was a colleague and from from when i worked at a Casino in Louisiana. We clearly disagreed on a TON of issues. Yet we still were able to talk calmly most times and accepted that we couldn't change the other person's views.

    If the other person doesn't want to have a friendly conversation and let something as stupid as homosexuality get in the way of a 'would-be' good relationship, thta is up to them.

    As for others becoming alcoholics because someone else drinks... please give an example as I do not see hwo that works unless they are trying to sell to the others who don't drink.

    OK, as for the porn and relationship thing... it does ruin relationships. Especially healthy ones where if it wasn't for porn, they wouldn't have much conflict or differing views.

    A relationship is a commitment to the other, 100% both ways. If you have one giving 90% and the other 100%, it isn't going to work always. the differece, is how much does the person, who isn't using porn, willing to work with the other to overcome this addiction.

    If the other partner agrees to the use of porn, they are allowing their relationship to turn into a caldrin or sexual lust. One if not both partners will come to the conclusion that they want more. It is a never ending, never filling blackhole. You will always find new perversions to explore. So the only solutions is to stop it in its tracks before it gets worse. And it can only leade to heartache when the other person realizes that they aren't enough for their partner anymore and the other poartner turns towards others to experiment with.

    Lust is a never ending blackhole that will never be filled. How else do you explain all of the different perversions available?

    Regardless how sex and porn are seen in any culture... the only thing that is different is how desensitised you are to it. It doesn't make it any less wrong or immoral, if it is accepted by the masses. it still causes the same issues.

    Yes, Offenses will happen, but your character is shown in how you deal with those things, not in how often you are able to dodge those offenses.

    Given a lot of societies, even today, used things like stoning to prevent gay and lustful behavior. That is their choice. As for the Iraelites and the surrounding area, those harsh punishments were there to stop the spread of this homo-disease and the desire to lust after another without having rights to them.

    What is offensive to others? What does it matter? What only matters is what God says and what is offensive to Him. Man doesn't knwo what is good for them. Only what feels good to them.

    Vegence is the Lord's No one elses. No matter what the law says.

    Let me ask you something... if you see someone about to run in front of a speding bus, will you just walk by and not say anything? God wants us to try to help those who are in need or who are in trouble. That is the reason for evangelizing. To spread His Word and Truth. How can someone see that they are doing wrong or will end up in a bad place if they continue to believe that what they are doing is right?

    This article and other I write aren't there to find faults in others... but to show other the faults in the things that they do. For them to come to the realization that what they are doing hurts them and other they care for as well as other around them.

    I believe my posts to show a position of me wanting to help others... not to pick a fight. i've stated this several time within my posts.

    It might be unjust for blame others for being in a problem that they didn't create or want... but if you have the ability to get out, then the problem is with you and not the problem itself.

    As for your 2nd posting... I don't really understand it.

    God will provide everything a man needs for himself and his family, as long we he trusts and puts his burdens in the Lord's hands...

    God bless,
    Johnathan
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    # itinerant 2009-03-22 16:22
    Hi Jonathan, hi all

    I was so busy posting on the other threads I didn't notice this one.

    There is a lot written here and this is a difficult subject to tackle.

    I'm going to take the angle of general knowledge and also biblical examples.

    We understand that the politicians of our era, well before our time, in the 1950's dodged certain moral issues by refusing to outlaw certain aspects of distasteful behaviour I don't remember all the details off hand but I think it turned out they repealed laws against homosexuality and prostitution and regulated the pornographic industry and that is basically why there is so much pornographic material out there and also other forms of media that they call 'lad's mags' which promote the latest starlet from hollywood or whereever.

    As the years have gone by this industry has pushed and tested to see how far the public would tolerate them and the public well really doesn't have a particularly loud voice on the issue it's reach a point where the economy is so large any protest about standards is simply ignored for the sake of the money.

    I was surprised to learn that it is not illegal to pay for sex in the UK but it is illegal to pimp or solicit or something in certain circumstances.

    That is not the culture I was brought up in so the world that I live in has changed at a pace I don't understand very well at all. Nobody I know would approve of prostitution.

    I think it is safe to say that they didn't expect people to adhere to the standards of the church ok so you have a mix of attitudes and people in society.

    Now say you go on holiday to some place like Ibiza or the Caribbean and we discover that there is a range of attitudes as to what is accepted and tolerable or not.

    The uninhibited atmosphere of drink and sea and all the rest of it where people are relaxed and let their hair down nobody cares what they do privately or publicly in some cases.

    What fits in one setting does not fit in another and what is considered offensive by one culture is not by another.

    And so as people have travelled and been to all these places they have imported and exported a variety of those attitudes with them which has led to a loosening up of people's attitude towards sex.

    That gives us a little understanding of how the current situation has evolved over time. We came into the world long after all these decisions were made and it is those of the older generation, not the youth, who were responsible for that decision making process.

    There is nothing worse in life that being a young man realising a fault in his elders or his government and being next to powerless to confront it yet that is often the situation we find ourselves in.

    I'm not saying I approve of porn and particularly not of other more sordid forms of behaviour of course I don't and especially not of the awful and shocking way that the youth and even young children are treated by very evil men it goes without question that these things are unacceptable in any situation and something is and does need to be done to protect them.

    "
    As for others becoming alcoholics because someone else drinks... please give an example as I do not see hwo that works unless they are trying to sell to the others who don't drink."
    ~
    It's a matter of peer pressure because it is young people who particularly feel they have to fit in with their group so they will start to drink to join in with the others and then of course as often happens the group of friends go their seperate ways having learned some new habits from one another and there will be always be one who is maybe more susceptible, because of averages, personality, and because of his association with that group devlops into alcoholic.

    He cannot take what was accepted in one group and take it to another and drops out of society and ends up on the streets.. the old story.

    Same priniciple with pornography it is everywhere but you go to another society, like an islamic one and they would be extremely offended by people's casual attitude to sex, none of us approved or agreed to the manufacture of it but the tide has landed on us all the same.

    Have to point out who is responsible for the actual activity of producing it the media industry which then makes it easy for them to lure impressionable people into their world because they think it is accepted.

    Take them out of that world and then try and put church standards over them they aren't going to understand. The church doesn't have the upper hand in terms of popular support on this issue.

    Ok I understand that the church model of the family is one man one wife and a house of their own.

    Yet in my society and my economy neither my family, no friend, no employer not any government or anyone has permitted me to obtain these things for myself.

    I had a crazy girlfriend and I split up with her, had a job and the guy copped out of paying me a living wage and helping me find accomodation when he realised the money he paid me wouldn't even cover the rent.

    Let me just say that i've been around jobcentres, training, government hostels, and social housing and all that for 15 years trying every group I know to ask for help and all the kings horses could do nothing and my own family looked at the state of me and just said "oh you look skinny" because I starving to death over period of about 7 years living on £5 a day and never knowing where my next penny was going to come from.

    So.. i find it really hard to believe that God is providing for me.. no qualifications, that are recognised, just a seed of ability and most of my life has been eaten up just trying to stay alive when everyone I have ever met has knocked the stuffing out of me over one issue or another.

    People bullying me and kicking me around.. and I'm supposed to have morals and care about what the world does when it is happy to kill me.

    That's where I'm coming from. I do like to help people and my friends when I can but I am one in the world who has the least to give.

    As for my second post, that is the issue of economy and crime isn't it.. for charmed year in my life I was happy with a routine when things seemed ok with my girlfriend and my job I was managing and doing things, the guy was charging clients £65 an hour for my time and paying me about £3 just like the agencies here charge £35 to clients and pay £5 to staff per hour.. well why do people turn to the sex industry to make a living?

    Because all the dirty old men who have made their millions from yesteryear in a less hostile economy will pay thousands of pounds or dollars to get people to strip for the camera.

    It is simply the media driving all of this not individuals and if there is blame to hand out it does lie with the top public institutions.

    What people do in this world is because they have learned it from their elders, what is accepted or not and they are learning they get away with anything.

    church has another standard which means that disciples of Jesus do not engage in the same wild debauchery as them but they also go to the other extreme of picking a mote from a brother's eye when they have a plank in their own as well.

    I haven't personally done anything that i would consider to be sexually or morally outrageous by anyone's standards
    but the one thing I am aware of is that once people do get on their soapbox about an issue and the fur starts flying it doesn't really matter if you are innocent or guilty of anything they have only to think you are and they will do as they think.

    When Jesus intervened at the stoning of the woman for adultery he said you without sin cast the first stone and he was not considered heretic those people obeyed him and walked away.

    I don't think the church should try and hold the world to account for their behaviour all I'm really trying to get to in a roundabout way is that we are meant to be responsible for ourselves and not pick on others for what we say is their sin.

    I hate religious mobs I really do and I'm not saying that I defend the criminal but I will never get stirred up about these issues in the way that some people do.

    If people cared if I was offended in life I wouldn't be living in crappiest accomodation in my part of town and I would never get away with what other people do but if I am disgusted by what some people do I am also somewhat more indifferent to it than others.

    That is all. I'll not join in on any witch hunt.
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    # itinerant 2009-03-22 17:06
    Worse than that in my situation is that I have had 4 women socially housed in my block next door to me and I have seen all 3 of them be taken advantage of, all them young women, one was a girl with learning difficulties who brought in a string of boyfriends one after the other ended up pregnant and another girlie she knew had 4 children by 4 fathers all on the same estate and all on social security then the next one was a herion addict and I saw God put her to sleep with a cup of coffee when she was beating my door down because she was desperate, and this one with her friends tried to get me hooked on crack cocaine in the years I lived here and then the next one had a child taken away by social services all these people and another one who live on her own and is desperate for a someone to snatch her out of poverty, well same here everyone is in the same stateand then next to that I have got the zombie man who groans all night long with pain because he has ulcers on his legs and this is what my world my government says I have to tolerate and then I have to get funding via loans, and a mortgage in an economy which has just collapsed the world over I am supposed to get at £300,000 pounds into debt just to live in my own country in what sub standard accomondation any way.

    All these women throwing themselves at me and I'm like yeah but how we are supposed to afford to live?

    My sister lives in a 3 bed terrace with 2 children and a husband both of them work and yet live in the smallest house available overall they are both worth nearly half a million pounds doesn't get you anywhere in england.

    I look at property and in some places in the US you can get gorgeous 4000 sqaure foot aoccomodation for a $500,000 dollars well in the economy that was, £250,000 a year or two ago she could have moved to america and lived in a mansion for what she was paying for a house with a kitchen not much bigger than my own in a 1 bedroom rented bedsit.

    And brother has lost £100,000 on his property in london so if I am going to criticise anything it is absolutley going to be the uneven standards applied in the rule of this economy and this society -

    For it says, "the Lord will not aquit the man with a bag of decietful weights".

    All these people with money have it handed to them I've never had anything handed to me except violence.
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    # itinerant 2009-03-22 17:39
    And I can say yet more about my old job in IT I've read your testimony John you got a good break that is not what people are doing in my country.

    In my last job in computers I built and deployed 4 nt servers and an old fashioned dial in service for my company's clients when my two colleagues, by boss and someone else were unable to do that same task on over time yet I was paid the least of all them.

    I quit that job when I was nearly electrocuted by 30amps when the employer signed us on to a job we had no training in at all, for his own millionaire head of church pillar of community lifestyle I saw my colleague put pliers to a live ring main that we thought was off but wasn't because it was a spur from another floor.

    Happy to risk our lives he was we worked next to that ring main for 6 weeks without knowing it was live. That's how close it was.

    Then in my life I find religious people who want push the world around no I don't accept it not one bit if people want to accomplish things and do good to one another then they can achieve it IF THEY SO DESIRE but in my whole life not the world, not family, community or church hypocrites have done an ounce of good to me they have taken and taken from my life including the church pastor who had me build the foundations of his new house for free and I can go on and on..

    and all I can say is there is no-one in my life who I know who would ever accept half, a tenth of the things that have been done to me and yet they are the first to point the finger at me saying you sinner because I saw a sensual image that the world is full of that their government permitted in any case.. all I can say is just effing die you hypocrites!

    Make no apology for that.
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    # itinerant 2009-03-22 18:08
    and I know that some people think it is funny to have a go at me and we all know who it is and if the c**t ever comes near me I will murder him and if you are surprised that people lose their temper when you provoke them and lie about them well.. that a*hole has been going on at me for years to make me feel harassed.

    surprise.
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    # itinerant 2009-03-22 18:29
    These people are scum utter pigs they don't care if they rob me church Jesus or not!
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    # itinerant 2009-03-22 18:55
    oh and this person also took my writing which was better than his and said it was his and I found he doesn't even know his own bible all this attacks on me from him is for him to cover himself up because he's such a villiager and doesn't want to look bad.

    give him an inch and he takes a mile.
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    # itinerant 2009-03-22 19:11
    and what's more I committed the deadly crime of actually reading the bible and discussing it on his site! on the "discussion forum" having met him a total stranger just wandering past a web page like this and he started by putting threats to me. what a b*stard! He wanted it he started it he made the situation and it is he who refuses to back down.
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    # itinerant 2009-03-22 19:57
    and God may be love but they are all bastards!
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    # itinerant 2009-03-23 06:53
    And if that pig thinks he's got any influence on me he's got another thing coming he's enjoyed making my life miserable if their life is intolerable and they feel so awful about thier misdeeds then they can put a gun to their own heads!

    I don't care what is left over from past times of skiulduggery all they want to make another son of a gun twice as bad as them Ok then if it stops all crime in the world come on then you cowards just pick on someone you know is weaker than you.

    What a load of morons!
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