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What the Bible says about cussing, cursing and swearing

What I don't understand is how some so-called Christians can praise the Lord with the same mouth that they cuss and curse others when things don't go their way.

This is how I see it... if you cuss and curse and use the language of the world, how are you different than the world?

If you f-this and f-that and d-this and d-that... how can you praise the Lord the next sentence and proclaim Christ's word?

When we accepted God, Christ and the Holy Spirit, we are changed from within. We have to show this to the rest of the world that we are, in fact, different than the world. When an old friend sees the new Christian in you, they should see the fruit of the Spirit working in you. This should also reflect in your words to friends, family and anyone else you come in connection with. Cussing, cursing and swearing (today's definition of swearing) are not apart of who Christ is and how we as followers should act. I believe the Bible is very clear in these respect.

Also, the words used is just as important as their context being used. The simple reason is this:
1. The words that the world views as profanity, we should not utter for the simple fact as they are profane to most. When we act and talk like the world and profess Christ as our Lord and Savior, if we don't change after being saved... the world only sees us as being just like them with a religious bias.
2. When we using our own substitutions for common profanity in bad times or in certain circumstances, we are doing the same exact thing as the world when they use their profanity. Regardless if the words are the same or not.

Definition of Cuss[ing]: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6

Given the Bible does not use the word 'Cuss' or 'Cussing', however multiple, if not all, dictionaries consider cussing and cursing all the same. And the Bible does say that Cursing out of your mouth isn't right.

Taking out Lord's name in vain:

[bible]Exodus 20:7[/bible]
[bible]Deuteronomy 5:11[/bible]

Swearing: (The biblical definition is pertaining to an oath, promise or covenant. Today's definition is somewhat different.)

[bible]Leviticus 19:12[/bible]
[bible]Jeremiah 23:10[/bible]
[bible]Hosea 10:4[/bible]
[bible]James 5:12[/bible]

Cursing:

[bible]Psalms 10:7[/bible]
[bible]Psalms 59:12[/bible]
[bible]Psalms 109:17[/bible]
[bible]Romans 3:13-18[/bible]
[bible]Romans 12:14[/bible]
[bible]James 3:9-12[/bible]

Other verses:

[bible]James 1:26[/bible]
[bible]Luke 6:45[/bible]
[bible]Proverbs 10:31[/bible]
[bible]Matthew 12:36-37[/bible]
[bible]Ephesians 4:29[/bible]
[bible]Titus 2:5-8[/bible]
[bible]1 Peter 1:15[/bible]
[bible]1 Peter 3:10[/bible]
[bible]Colossians 3:5-13[/bible]
[bible]John 17:13-16[/bible]
[bible]Romans 12:2[/bible]

I believe that the Bible is strikingly clear that cussing, cursing and swearing are things that should never come from a Christian's mouth.

So, if you proclaim the love of Christ in your heart, prove it. Set an example and follow the love of God as well as follow His commandments.

What does it mean to be 'in' the world and not 'of' the world:
http://www.bible-knowledge.com/in-world-not-of-it/

God bless,
Johnathan

About criticism and how Christians should act
Additionally, as Christians, we are to take criticism in a special way. The following does a great job in describing it as well as uses scripture for support:
How To Take Criticism
by Henry Morris, Ph.D.
http://www.icr.org/article/21401/

“Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning” (Proverbs 9:9).

One of the most difficult lessons for Christians to learn is how to take criticism. The natural reaction is one either of resentment and desire to lash back, or else one of discouragement and quitting. Neither is honoring to the Lord.

Remembering that “all things work together for good” (Romans 8:28) to the sincere Christian believer, we should first of all consider the criticism as potential “instruction” from God as well as from the critic. We should seek to test the criticism as objectively as possible, in light of our actions and the Scriptures, the most probing critic of all. “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword . . . and is a discerner [literally ‘criticizer’] of the thoughts and intents of the heart” (Hebrews 4:12).

If it turns out that the criticism is even partly valid, then the obvious course is to take the appropriate remedial action, and to do it as prayerfully and graciously as possible.

On the other hand, if an honest evaluation of the criticism reveals it to be unwarranted, or perhaps even deliberately false and hurtful, then our example becomes Christ Himself. He never did or said anything to merit criticism (as we do, far too often), but He received it in great abundance.

What was His response? “When He was reviled, (He) reviled not again; when He suffered, He threatened not; but committed Himself to Him that judgeth righteously” (I Peter 2:23). We should remember that “a soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger” (Proverbs 15:1).

By all means, we must not become discouraged into retreating or quitting, “For consider Him that endured such contradiction of sinners against Himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds” (Hebrews 12:3). HMM

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# Javanut 2008-10-22 21:27
Lack of vocabulary, lack of impulse control and lack of proper moral upbringing all lead to poor speech. Train up your child in the way he should go and he won't be cussing when he gets older :-)
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# javanut 2009-04-11 15:24
The point I am making is this... life and death are spoken by words out of your mouth.

If you speak life, life is given. If you speak death, death is given.

As noted above with serveral verses:

1 Peter 3:10
For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
- King James Version

This verse tells those who love good to not speak evil things. Damning and cursing something because you are mad or have vengence are included. Anything that come out of your mouth either speaks life or death, is good or evil.

Proverbs 18:20-21
20 From the fruit of his mouth a man's stomach is filled; with the harvest from his lips he is satisfied.
21 The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit.

I do not believe that God wants us to cuss, curse and swear. It isn\'t in His nature, it isn\'t is Christ\'s nature... why should it be in ours, the Christians, the ones who are supposed to mimic Christ in this world.

Obviously the ones who are unbelievers, the unsaved, the lost, they will cuss, curse and swear, not wow power leveling (www.wowgold-powerleveling.com/) only because they can\'t help it, but because they were born with it... a distructful nature to harm and gratify only themselves.

If you speak like the world, how can anyone determine that you are not of this world?
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# snowite012267 2013-08-11 08:10
:-| I do not speak bad language. One of my children does cuss when ever she wants. My son may say bad words but he tells me I will never hear them, because he has too much respect to talk like that in front of his Mom or any other adult. This is not something that will always hold true. You can only do your best at raising your children. Once they become teenagers, they may stray on your teachings. What they do as an adult, is in their own hands. So yes I believe what you are saying is true, but things that cross their own paths in life, may alter your teachings. They will become and be who they want to be and at that point, you can not say the parent is responsible for their childs actions. Parents can not feel blamed for everything their child does. Everyone is their own individual. I myself am 1 of 5 children. I am the only one that does not speak bad. But we all have respect for others and are some of the kindest people you will come across in life. So do the best you can as a parent, don't be stressed as your child goes out into the world. They are their own person.
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# Melissa 2013-12-27 18:04
;-) I raised 6 boys and now are men, whom I taught them to respect read the bible as a family, we would go to Church, although as an adults they have their wives who cuss, and before long they were doing the same. I disagree with the upbringing, and lack of education, , there weakness is the flesh.
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# itinerant 2009-02-14 23:04
I've looked into this quite extensively and the word "curse" simply means to revile or despise. On the contrary the word "bless" means to make happy or bring happiness to.

In the range of meaning in between it can also mean to accept or to reject a person.

For what is written in the scripture:

Jas 2:3 and if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, "You sit here in a good place," while you say to the poor man, "You stand over there," or, "Sit down at my feet,"

Jas 2:4 have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

Jas 2:5 Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him?


Jas 2:6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

Jas 2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?

Reject!

That's more bible than most people have the paitence for!
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# Itinerant 2009-02-15 03:10
2Co 11:5 For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.
2Co 11:6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.

When I was growing up a kid from some rough estate knew every four letter word in the book. We asked his parents why does he swear he just copied them.

Rude words haven't you ever made an exclamation when you cut your thumb? I did once in front a customer he has come in quietly and I didn't know he was there. But I was working on a pc chassis with sharp edges sliced my finger open and exclaimed "oh dear I've done it again!". There was blood all over the place. To the amusement of some I may say.

Point being is sometimes accidents happen, sometimes people just crack sometimes it can't be avoided. I don't myself have a go at people for these things.
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# Johnathan Morlock 2009-02-26 02:58
@itinerant,

I am sorry but I believe that you\'ve missed the point of this article.

The point I am making is this... life and death are spoken by words out of your mouth.

If you speak life, life is given. If you speak death, death is given.

As noted above with serveral verses:

1 Peter 3:10
For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
- King James Version

This verse tells those who love good to not speak evil things. Damning and cursing something because you are mad or have vengence are included. Anything that come out of your mouth either speaks life or death, is good or evil.

Proverbs 18:20-21
20 From the fruit of his mouth a man's stomach is filled; with the harvest from his lips he is satisfied.
21 The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat its fruit.

I do not believe that God wants us to cuss, curse and swear. It isn\'t in His nature, it isn\'t is Christ\'s nature... why should it be in ours, the Christians, the ones who are supposed to mimic Christ in this world.

Obviously the ones who are unbelievers, the unsaved, the lost, they will cuss, curse and swear, not only because they can\'t help it, but because they were born with it... a distructful nature to harm and gratify only themselves.

If you speak like the world, how can anyone determine that you are not of this world?

God bless,
Johnathan
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# cyndi 2009-03-16 09:33
I appreciate your words and I personally do not think you missed the point at all. Have you ever read the book \"Blue Like Jazz\"? Not your typical Christian book but wonderful; I think you\'d enjoy it. It\'s true, we are indeed sinners saved by grace. We should no longer cuss than think or act out any evil thoughts or cut people off on the freeway or act selfishly or a million other things that separate us from God without his amazing Grace and Mercy we would be forever without hope.
God Bless you friend,
Cyndi
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# bekah 2009-05-07 04:20
So in the bible is it saying that you can't swear?
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# Johnathan Morlock 2009-05-07 05:53
Quoting bekah:
So in the bible is it saying that you can't swear?


Hello bekah,

Thanks so much for checking out the site and commenting.

I believe that it isn't within Christian/Biblical nature to cuss, curse and swear.

In the Bible it stricktly prohibits swearing by God's name in Leviticus 19:12.

Also, it is bad for a nation to swear:
Jeremiah 23:10

And here it says not to anyway: James 5:12.

Now, the question is this, do you follow the Bible and are you a Christian? IF you do/are, then you need to follow all its verses and wisdom.

Cussing, cursing and swear are NOT one of the fruits of the Spirit in which you eventually gain through your walk with Christ: Galatians 5:22-23.

If you have these fruits, do you see a need to cuss, curse or swear?

So yes, the Bible does say to NOT swear.

God bless you and your family Bekah,
Johnathan
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# Joy 2009-05-30 01:35
You did a great job defining the words cussing and cursing. I have a husband that curses and cusses at almost anything that happens--in front of my 9yr old daughter! When I talk to him about it, he compares his cussing to my worrying and anxiety attacks. I believe that cursing is a sin. But I don't believe having a panic attack is a sin!!! Do you have know of some scripture I can quote to him about this matter?
May God Bless You!
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# Anthony 2010-02-24 07:03
Actually Joy..it is my understanding that the Bible DOES speak of worry in several instances. See: Matthew 6:25-33, Proverbs 12:25, Philippians 4:6-7, 1 Peter 5:7 for STARTERS. But your husband is using a WEAK excuse. He is not only passing the habit of swearing along to your child but also the lack of accountability. \"Its ok for me to cuss because you worry\"? Is it okay then for your daughter to do the same and for the same reasons? Tell him Anthony in WV said to man up and step up to the plate. we men sometimes need a more direct approach =).
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# Johnathan Morlock 2009-06-01 06:39
Joy,

Thanks so much for using the site and checking things out.

You are more than welcome to use the scriptures noted above as well as this article, if you husband is willing to read it.

Anxiety attacks are a bit different than cussing/cursing... she should know better

Now as for cussing/cursing being a sin... I do not believe that Jesus/God would cuss and curse... so why should we as Christians... the ones who are enduring to become more godly/Christ-like.

I will take time to pray over your, your husband and your daughter. Lord knows that she will hear enough from the media, friends, school and everywhere else and she doesn't need to hear it from her own father... whom she views as the male side of humanity.

In other words... she will look for a husband that has qualities like your husband... etc.

God bless you, your husband and daughter Joy,
Johnathan
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# Kristhel 2013-01-01 05:59
So is it okay to worry?
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# johnathanamber 2013-01-10 15:42
Kristhel,

I do not believe that it is OK to worry. Show concern is different then worrying about something.

The following verses help to explain this biblically:
Matthew 6:25-27
Matthew 6:34
John 14:27
Colossians 3:15
Psalm 23:4
Psalm 55:22
Proverbs 3:5-6
Proverbs 12:25
Philippians 4:6-7
1 Corinthians 10:13

Overall, there is no need to worry, but trust in the Lord that He will take care of things. This will give your heart peace in knowing that He is there and is there with you through everything that goes on.

Showing concern can lead you to action on that concern. It can also be compared to compassion if your concern grows into compassion for another and actions you.

I hope this was of some help.

Please let me know if you need anything else.

God bless,
Johnathan
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# Christian 2009-09-11 08:17
This still isnt saying anything about cursing..
Its talking about cursing others/God.

Yal are taking it out of context to your liking.
Until you find something that says you shouldnt curse period.
I shall remain.
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# johnathanamber 2009-09-11 10:22
Hello Christian, (Assuming that is your name from the title of your comment.)

Thank you so much for visiting the site!

I want to just point a couple of things out to you.

Exodus 20:7 which tells us not to take the Lord's name in vain... and in Hebrew vain basically means:
Quote:
desolating; evil (as destructive), literally (ruin) or morally (especially guile); figuratively idolatry (as false, subjectively), uselessness (as deceptive, objectively; also adverbially in vain)
OK so that is pretty clear. Any saying that speaks death, not the truth, or falsely is wrong.

Leviticus 19:20
Profane means:
Quote:
bore, that is, (by implication) to wound, to dissolve; figuratively to profane (a person, place or thing), to break (one’s word)
Jeremiah 23:10

Swaering:
Quote:
an imprecation: - curse, cursing, execration, oath, swearing.
James 5:12
But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
- KJV

What does the above verse tell you?

Psalms 109:17
As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him.
- KJV

Cursing Means:
Quote:
vilification - slanderous defamation, a rude expression intended to offend or hurt
Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
- KJV

What does the above verse tell you?

You say that I am taking these verses out of context... can you explain that please?

The verses I've noted are from both the Old and New Testaments, not to mention they are about different points in the same topic... but they all describe how you should use your mouth to promote holiness, life and goodness and not evilness and death.

The point is cursing isn't the words being used... but how they are used.

We are told in scripture to have holy conversations (1 Peter 1:15). Can you honestly say that by damning something that that constitutes as being holy? Especially if it is out of frustration or anger?

For instance, a majority of the 'profanity' being used is used with the intent to hurting someone or something... in essence you are using those words in vain.

As Christians we are to be patient, loving people who follow Christ and His ways (Galatians 5:22-23).. using profanity isn't one of those ways and certainly doesn't coincide with anything that scripture tells us.

Does this make any sense to you?

God bless you,
Johnathan
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# Christian 2009-09-11 10:31
You clarified everything just now.
What i meant was i dont think that using curse words are a sin but its the way you use them.

God Bless
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# Javanut 2009-09-11 12:40
I think Johnathan more than covered adequately the topic of cursing, swearing and cussing. If you can't see that in the verses he quoted above, it's because you don't want to see it and want to remain in your sin.
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# becky 2009-09-23 06:38
well by hearing those verses, you are not suppose to curse as in despise or damn somebody but as in swearing using gods name is for shure not in gods way. I belive that to say \"s***\" of \"f***\" is okay as long as your not in the presence of somebody else. You are not supposed to cause your brother or sister to stumble and as long as your not cursing anyone. I don\'t see anything i the bible. Cursing is more like wishing bad upon someone and i don\'t believe the \"F\" word and such are doing that. I simply do not see that they are talking about that in the bible. It was a different time period, you have to take that in to consideration.
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# Johnathan Morlock 2009-10-16 00:00
Thank you for taking the time to comment.

I agree with you for the most part, especially when you are talking about your bother and sister and not making them stumble.

Something that I just thought about was that, no matter who you are around when you do say something negative/damning/death-fil led, either about someone or something... you are still speaking negative, and opening doors for death to be spoken into things and people.

Words brought life into this universe and life into each and every one of us... they are very powerful and God gave us the same power with our own words. So if you speak death into something, or someone, by damning it, or cursing/swearing/cussing, you are speaking death into that person or thing.

Does that make sense?

When Jesus spoke, He said things just as they were... He didn't try to over exaggerate anything, belittle anyone or call them names... He showed them the respect they deserved.

Even most of the pharisees, He put them in their place... but when a pharisee was actually seeking truth... Jesus spoke to them with respect and answered their questions. Remember Nicodemus? (John 3:1-21)

Of course God having the knowledge He does have definitely knows when and how to use His words.

Now the one thing I really disagree on is this:
"It was a different time period, you have to take that in to consideration."

I completely disagree with this one... and I'll tell you why.

The Bible is God's Word... that I think we can all agree on, at least those who believe in the Bible.

That being said... God's Word is timeless and never changes... thus their meaning and teaching are always relevant... no matter how old they are.

So to say something like "It was a different time period, you have to take that in to consideration." is also saying that God's Word isn't true simply because it is 'old'.

Another example.... since the Constitution is 'old', does it make it any less relevant?

Please comment again... I look forward to it.

Thank you and God bless you and your family,
Johnathan
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# rebecca 2009-10-16 04:47
well,i'm not sure if this scripture about curing is in the old or new testament but doesn't it say right there in the bible that the old testament is not to be followed today?
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# rebecca 2009-10-16 04:53
after doing some studying of the scripture is says something to the effect of: the tounge is a flame that can ignite many things and it is used to praise the lord and then to curse men and women which would be an ungodly thing to do I think....although I am still not clear on why saying "F***" for example would be a sin if i am not saying it about someone because then I wouldn't be cursing them or damning them or causing any1 to stumble and i don't even have bad intentions at heart so, I am a bit confused although I have read some passages that did say if you use that tounge to praise god (which i do) then to not curse men so i kinda get the picture but it is kind of unclear as to what is considered "cursing men".....
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# johnathanamber 2009-10-22 09:59
I guess the whole thing is to promote Godly behaviour. I am 100% positive that God/Christ wouldn't cuss/curse or swear to just do it.

It isn't in our nature 'Christians' to be like the world. Which is why we feel bad for doing things sometimes... it is the Spirit telling us that we shouldn't do that.

If the rest of the work used the F-bomb to cuss and curse... and it really has no relevance in our own language... than why use it?

And BTW, just because you are saying it by yourself or with no intention behind it... doesn't mean that others don't hear it.

If we are like the World... what makes us separate? More importantly... how would the World see us any differently?

God is always with us and is always teaching us.

God bless you Rebecca... pelase seek the Lord about this... I woould love more comments about this BTW.
Johnathan
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# Clay 2009-10-21 09:43
Hey, I was just googling and came across this site as a reference for 'is swearing a sin' type thing.

I just wanted to say thanks for doing all the hard work for this.

-Clay

P.S. And my personal opinion is this: Do our actions honor God in what we do? What would a person coming down the street think about us swearing? I think not swearing helps the Kingdom more so than swearing--so I don't do it.
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# johnathanamber 2009-10-22 09:59
Bless you brother!

The Lord put this on my heart to research and to spread His Word all in this topic.

I also do not believe that it benefits us to use it, even if we have no intent behind it... it is the World's words... not our own.

If we are like the World... what makes us separate? More importantly... how would the World see us differently?

God Bless you and your family Clay,
Johnathan
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# Matt 2009-10-22 06:32
My upbringing was really bad:sad: Now I cuss thinking it does not mean anything but it does! I am sick of it! I do't ever want to do it again. I just don't know how to stay away from it:sad: I need help! I don't want my wife and kids to think "great, dad's home:sad:".

Pray for me and if you can help me please do. In my heart I am a very loving guy.


Quoting Javanut:
Lack of vocabulary, lack of impulse control and lack of proper moral upbringing all lead to poor speech. Train up your child in the way he should go and he won't be cussing when he gets older :-)
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# johnathanamber 2009-10-22 10:02
Hello Matt,

I would be glad to help if you'll let me.

You are more than welcome to email me directly:



BTW, the reason why I no longer cuss like a sailor... was because I didn't want to hurt and hinder my family.

I'd love to talk about this more.

God bless you and your family Matt, I'll pray for you,
Johnathan
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# Matt 2009-10-22 10:27
I was doing a serch because I cussed at my wife and yelled at her because I was hurt. I don't want to hinder my family ether and that is why I wanted to look for help on the topic.

I will be e-mailing you:-)

I just want people to know my side and the trap I feel like I'm in so that it will help someone else know there is a way to get mad but not sin.

Anyone else want to pray for me please fill free!
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# Cameron 2010-02-23 18:33
Like others, I too came across this site in my search for answers. I seek some really solid advice guys and it's really been testing my heart and bringing up questions. Here's the thing though. It's not me that I'm concerned about.

My girlfriend used to have a horrible mouth, but when she started dating me I reached out to help her stop and I succeeded. Only, it wasn't until a year later that I hear her slip up and eventually come to the realization that she didn't stop for her sake or for the Lord's sake. She stopped to make ME happy. We got to talking and she confessed that she honestly believes that when used in the "right" way, profanity is not a sin. She said that if you use it in a positive way or in a way that requires the use of the word it's ok as long as you aren't implying negative things behind it. For example, "You're f***ing beautiful".

And so I tried and tried to help her understand that it's just bad, but she claims that the only reason these words are bad is because society has made them to be that way and what is truly bad isn't the word but the meaning behind it and how you use it.

These verses all seem to address the negative use of profanity but I don't understand how it's bad to use them in a positive way. My conscious tells me it's bad, but hers doesn't..

What am I supposed to say to her so that she can understand?

Please help me find the words to say :sad:

God Bless.
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# Matt 2010-02-24 04:23
Hope this helps. It is sin for her because the way she used it in the past.

Gal 5:9
A little leaven leavens the whole lump.

She has a very good chance of doing all the time if she does not stop all togethr:sad: It's like someone that had a problem with porn. If they watch it even a little it will take over.
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# Cameron 2010-02-24 05:27
Thank you for your response, however it doesn't really address my problem :/

The problem isn't her doing it. She chooses not to do it because she wants to make me happy and she just chooses not to. For her, it has nothing to do with it being a sin though. She believes that the word alone is no sin, but how you use it. She also says that its no different than using "freaking" or any other replacer word because the meaning is the same as the curse word. What makes the word alone, regardless of the context a sin?
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# Johnathan Morlock 2010-02-24 06:03
Cameron,

I've had to think about this for a bit before deciding to respond.

This article is about the way Christians should be portraying themselves.

So yes, the words themselves have no particular meaning with nothing behind them. However you have to take into account the following verses:

1 Corinthians 10:31-33
"So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Give no offense to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God, just as I try to please everyone in everything I do, not seeking my own advantage, but that of many, that they may be saved."

In today's world, certain words are used as profanity. No if ands or buts about it. So to everyone else who isn't a believer, how do they know she isn't cussing? To other believers, how do they know? By her using these words, even though they are meant to be painless, are actually stumbling blocks for believers and unbelievers that we are trying to save

Does that make any sense?

She may not see them as being harmful, but we knot that they are regardless since the world is the one that uses these words to harm others or themselves.

If those particular words were never used in the English language... that will be different, but because they are and for those particular purposes be unbelievers, we have to take that into account as how we portray ourselves to be believers in Christ.

God bless you and your girlfriend Cameron,
Johnathan
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# Cameron 2010-02-24 09:39
Thank you Johnathan. I've tried getting through to her, and she has grown up this way so I don't expect her opinions to change. It also goes back to the whole, speaking life and death thing, as well as being like Christ. I will tell her what you have told me and hopefully she will be willing to let down her guard and allow the Spirit to work in her. I really appreciate your time and the speedy response.

God Bless.
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# johnathanamber 2010-02-25 14:35
Cameron,

I am glad to help anyway I can.

I was curious, do you think she'll be open enough to actually read this article?

God bless you and your girl friend,
Johnathan
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# Rick 2010-04-16 13:16
I think something that is being missed in the whole conversation is that we are basing "cuss" words by the world and not by God. The scriptures used are very true in saying that we need to be careful of what we say, but no where do scriptures tell us that we can not say the so called "cuss" words.

They say we can not use the Lord's name in vain, which is actually impossible since we only know of his name as an abbreviation without vowels-YHWH. I do feel that since we do call YHWH God and we know Jesus' name, as Christians we should not use them as cuss words, that is very sinful.

As for the rest of the scriptures. They talk about curse words, offensive words, swearing in the sense of using words in a negative, hurtful, spiteful, mean way. It doesn't say you can't say the F-word, it says you should understand who and how you are affecting others. What is the purpose in your heart. The word idiot, moron, fat, stupid very much can be sinful and more of a cuss/swear word Biblically than the F-word. If you say the F-word around your grandma, be sure you are going to offend her. If you say to your best friend, it’s a great F-ing day, you are sure that you haven’t offended him, hurt him, or meant malice on him in any way. That doesn’t hurt God, or even make him think that you are being sinful. But if you use the word dumb towards another person, then you are doing exactly what the scriptures warn you not to do.

Now, here is the big issue, we do not know out in the world who is offended by the wordly “cuss” words and who isn’t, it is much easier to not say them so you know for sure you aren’t hurting anyone. But be careful, I offended the poop out of someone by using the word crap once. (yes, I purposely put the word poop in there because it seems less offensive but means the exact thing)

Also, since Christianity is always being looked over and criticized by the world, it would be advantageous to Christ, which as a Christian is what our goal should be is to do everything for Him, for us to stay away from words that may make people think us Christians are being huge hypocrites or being very poor Christians in practice.

As the scriptures say, it is a heart thing. Luke 6:45

Hopefully this all made sense. I tried to condense my thoughts on the subject.

P.S. In the future when you define the words-define the original Hebrew and Greek and not the English, it will give you much more insight.
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# cody lippart 2010-04-22 01:37
I think that all the stuff the bible says about cussing is right. cuss words are just words.Theres nothing wrong with a little foul language but if you use it everyday for no reason thats just making you look dumber and dumber every time you say a bad word.
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# johnathanamber 2010-04-22 09:28
@Rick,

Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.

Question... by what other means do we have to base cussing from? God's Word does not literally mention the word: Cuss, although it does mention swearing and cursing. In the sense that you should not swear falsly or curse things. Nothing negative should come out our mouths.

Again, based on the scripture verses given it isn't in our Christian nature to cuss like the world does. "Be in the World not of the World."

Yes, you are accurate in that we should not use ANY of God's names' in vain. Regardless if we use God, YHWH, YHVH, Jahova, Father, Dad, Jesus, Yeshua, Spirit or even Bob.

Rick, often times those words are used in negative and hurtful ways... and even the World sees those words as negative and hurtful... so how is it OK to even say them if the World recognizes them as being negative if the Bible says to NOT say anything negative? You are also accurate in that any word can basically be a negative word, therefore we should also watch out to not say them as well.

You also should not say them since one: it does hurt people by the World's and by God's standards, and two: just because you can't see someone, doesn't mean they can't hear you and offend them. Therefore we should never say them.

The whole point in this article is to point out the nature of God and what He did while here on Earth. Based on His actions and reactions He would not have used earthly language like cuss words for any reason instead of maybe to elaborate on them for teaching purposes. That is what the World see as bad and so why should we be a stmbling block for everyone else by using them?

By using those words, as you've pointed out, you not only are conforming to the World... being of the World, instead of simply being in it. You are 'wearing' those words every time you say them, even if there is nothing negative behind them. Each time you say them, you are showing someone else, that you are apart of what the World does and is instead of continually showing the World who Christ is. It is negative to even say them as far as the world is concerned and therefore they should not be said.

As you've pointed out in the scipture:
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Luke 6:45
"The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart."
A good man brings out good things... if you bring out the bad things of this world... what does that make you to the world? Not a good man.

Thank you for the suggestion on using the original Greek and Hebrew... I try my best to use them as much as I can. If you take the time to read my other articles you will see that I have used the original text in the past. I will continue to better my research techniques. Again thank you for the suggestion.

@Cody,

Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.

As I've pointed out in the above reply to Rick, we should not say them even if we think no one hears them. We are commanded to be in the world and not apart of it.

if you honestly believe that the Bible says that cussing is OK... then please pray, read your Bible more and seek God's word in your heart, let the Spirit guide you. God doesn't go against His Word and therefore I am certain that you will reach the same conclusion as I have in that anything negative should not be said. Even if nothing negative is behind those words.

it simply is not in Christ's, or God's, nature to say the words that this world sees as negative. or any word for that matter that portrays a negative meaning.

As you've already pointed out... it makes you look 'dumber and dumber' by using them... so why use them at all?

A righteous man is righteous in everything he does...

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Psalm 1:1-6
1How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, Nor stand in the path of sinners, Nor sit in the seat of scoffers!
2But his delight is in the law of the LORD, And in His law he meditates day and night.
3He will be like a tree firmly planted by streams of water, Which yields its fruit in its season And its leaf does not wither; And in whatever he does, he prospers.
4The wicked are not so, But they are like chaff which the wind drives away.
5Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, Nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.
6For the LORD knows the way of the righteous, But the way of the wicked will perish.
BTW, those article isn't here to hurt anyone... by stop using the Words of the World, you are helping yourself and others. By following what the Bible says will only better your life. You aren't taking anything away by stop using the World's Words.

Thank you and God bless,
Johnathan
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# Samantha 2010-04-29 01:36
:-) The reason for these so called christians to praise the Lords name with the same mouth the curse with is because their human! we are ALL sinners! including you who judge them. im not saying its right but im just saying dont be so quick to judge. we all live in this sinful world and even as christians we seem to fall in world like ways sometimes because its so hard not to. yes we shouldnt but like i said wwe are all children of god and do wrong and sinful things but we are forgiven! no sin is greater then any other. thanks for the comment
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# johnathanamber 2010-04-29 08:51
Samantha,

Thank you very much for reading and commenting!

I undertstand that we are human, that we are born with a sin nature and initially have a desire to follow that sin nature as far as it will take us.

However, as the Bible does state that:
2 Corinthians 5:17
"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come."

Now, having reiterated that, it is NOT immediate as far as our past habits, behaviors and problems. God has to work with us to get rid of our sin habits, behaviors and problems.

That is why that the road before us after being saved is a broken one. It is there to 'train' us to get past our sinful nature and be completely in the will of God. Without this broekn road journey, we will not be able to do the will of God.

As a problem with many people, as well with Christians, is that we do not take criticism well. I am going to make an addition to the article which does a great job in explaining this and how Christians should take criticism.

If you want to read it separately go here: http://www.icr.org/article/21401/ (www.icr.org/article/21401/)

I am not judging, nor am I trying to make it sound that way. Rather I am offering a chance to see your language as a tool for God and to see past the seemingly little things like cussing. This IS NOT part of the Christian lifestyle and it should not be promoted. I am trying to get peopel to think before they speak and to realize that they are also sinnign by continuing their worldly speaking.

You are right in that we are in the world, but we should always strive to NOT be apart of the world. We act on behave of Christ and God. And if we act just like the world when someone cuts us off in traffic, when we crush our finger or stub or toes or when things do not go our way. We need to treat each and ever situation as an opportunity to expand ourselves, and the love of God.

After I post this comment I will add the above link to the article as well as its text.

Christians should take criticism firstly as instruction from God, even from unbelievers. When we take that criticism, we need to seek His Word on it, pray and seek God for guidance.

Thank you again and God bless,
Johnathan
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# Me 2010-06-18 07:51
hmmm... I curse. However, I am a Christian. I wish I didn't. Typically, it comes out of my mouth to make more of an emphasis on a funny story... or I have been known to let one fly when I have hurt myself or the like.

This whole debate seems silly to me. All people should know that cursing is not God's way. People who are not Christians know that you should not be cursing. Most work places have rules in place about cursing. At my work, we have a program that blocks us from looking up anything on the internet about the Bible, but they do not allow us to come in and start cursing in the office. And it is simply because it makes you look uneducated, rude, unsympathetic to others, unapproachable and so on. Therefore, if it is logical for even a non-religious workplace of this world, how could a Christian not know that they should not present themselves in such a light.

As I said, I am a Christian. I am therefore a sinner. I curse. I am trying to stop. I do not like the light that it puts me in. I have also attempted to twist and turn the words of the Bible to meet my own needs. It is best to just follow your own conscious. You KNOW what is right. You might attempt to bury it, but if you have the least bit of God in your heart then you know.

Just as a side note, my boyfriend is also trying to stop cursing. He told me the other day that he had done really well. He had only said... SH*T. Then he said, that's not a bad word, is it? My gauge for ME is... would I be ok saying it in church? In front of God, my pastor and all the members without hesitation. If you can answer YES, then by all means continue.

And for the lady/man that said that she curses when she is alone... God is always with us. And if it is possible to steer others off their path with those words... what good could they be doing for you?

As I stated... I curse so I am not looking down on anyone here... just debating and throwing some food for thought out there.

God bless you all and good day! :-)
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# byrd 2013-08-29 14:33
Quoting Me:
hmmm... I curse. However, I am a Christian. I wish I didn't. Typically, it comes out of my mouth to make more of an emphasis on a funny story... or I have been known to let one fly when I have hurt myself or the like.

This whole debate seems silly to me. All people should know that cursing is not God's way. People who are not Christians know that you should not be cursing. Most work places have rules in place about cursing. At my work, we have a program that blocks us from looking up anything on the internet about the Bible, but they do not allow us to come in and start cursing in the office. And it is simply because it makes you look uneducated, rude, unsympathetic to others, unapproachable and so on. Therefore, if it is logical for even a non-religious workplace of this world, how could a Christian not know that they should not present themselves in such a light.

As I said, I am a Christian. I am therefore a sinner. I curse. I am trying to stop. I do not like the light that it puts me in. I have also attempted to twist and turn the words of the Bible to meet my own needs. It is best to just follow your own conscious. You KNOW what is right. You might attempt to bury it, but if you have the least bit of God in your heart then you know.

Just as a side note, my boyfriend is also trying to stop cursing. He told me the other day that he had done really well. He had only said... SH*T. Then he said, that's not a bad word, is it? My gauge for ME is... would I be ok saying it in church? In front of God, my pastor and all the members without hesitation. If you can answer YES, then by all means continue.

And for the lady/man that said that she curses when she is alone... God is always with us. And if it is possible to steer others off their path with those words... what good could they be doing for you?

As I stated... I curse so I am not looking down on anyone here... just debating and throwing some food for thought out there.

God bless you all and good day! :-)

well put its as if i wrote this :sigh:
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# Johnathan Morlock 2010-06-18 14:58
Hello "Me",

Thank you very much for stopping by and reading the article.

God doesn't take our words lightly, why should we? To the non-believer sure... this is a silly argument... but as believers we should continue to strive to be Christ-like in everything we do. Even in what we say.

I personally know that you can actually get rid of cursing in your everyday life. I used to all the time. When I came to know Jesus, He worked with me on getting ride of that hindrance.

I've also helped others with theirs as well, namely Matt who has also commented on this very article.

Thank you for commenting and I pray that God blesses you, your boyfriend and your family.

God bless,
Johnathan

BTW, if would like assistance please let me know.
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# Ruester 2010-07-14 03:57
It's decent of you to change your own vocabulary for what you believe is right. The problem comes when you tell me how to speak, think and live.

Also, the quotes you list from the bible have a few holes in them.

One, they do not specify which words are bad, or good - SO it is left up to individuals such as yourselves to interpret these to your whim.

Two, the original text from which was poorly translated, and you are quoting, was just that - poorly translated. When King James came across words with vague, or no equal translation, he filled in those holes with his own words and loose translations, and the other versions are sometimes even more distorted. For example, probably one of the biggest mistakes is that of Moses parting the Red Sea, but the correct Hebrew translation is 'sea of reeds', or marsh (from original text: yam suph).

It becomes extremely dangerous to live by ANY man's interpretation of the bible, or any other holy text (see Middle East)

Here's an odd fact: Cursing has been scientifically proven to relieve pain for a short period of time.

I'll leave you with this - the most dangerous weapon on the planet is Man's interpretation of the Bible.
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# johnathanamber 2010-07-14 12:06
Ruester,

Thank you so much for commenting.

As far as doing what I believe is right, it doesn't matter what I beleive, only what our God tells us and His thoughts of the matter.

I am not the one telling you, or anyone else for that matter, how to live. Rather I am simply reiterating what He has already told us.

For those who do not believe in God/Christ and His Word (The Bible), they will either not be able to understand or properly comprehend what He is telling us in His Word.

But for those who do believe in His Word, this is not just a reiteration of what He has told us, but it should also be taken as 'constructive criticism' in the sense that when another person comes to us and requests us to 'change', as believers we should ALWAYS seek God and let Him have His way in changing us, if needed. To ignore it would simply be foolish, I would say as far as even being sinful or sinlike in the sense that we are NOT following His Word.

The Bible having holes... again for those that do not believe, they would see flaws everywhere you read His Word. For those who truely believe and seek His guidence, it is infallible.

Do not take it that I am questioning your faith in God, if you have any. Simply stating the facts.

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One, they do not specify which words are bad, or good - SO it is left up to individuals such as yourselves to interpret these to your whim.
Understood to a point. If the world sees specific words as cuss words, why would we see them differently? Why would we have MPAA ratings for movies to note them if we didn't see them as being bad or offensive? The point being that it simply isn't just the words that the believer uses but also the words that the World uses and their context. Now technically any word can be used in place of societies terms for cussing. But in this case not many words ARE replacing those. So we have to make sure to better ourselves by not using them and following Christ-like behavior.

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Two, the original text from which was poorly translated, and you are quoting, was just that - poorly translated. When King James came across words with vague, or no equal translation, he filled in those holes with his own words and loose translations, and the other versions are sometimes even more distorted. For example, probably one of the biggest mistakes is that of Moses parting the Red Sea, but the correct Hebrew translation is 'sea of reeds', or marsh (from original text: yam suph).
Also understood. With different views of God's Word comes different interrpretations or understandings. However, to say that ALL of the verses noted above are wrong simply because of a specific translation is to simply deny that God's Word is unity within itself and that God is not sovereign. All of the verses point toward a Christian Character in which using cussing, cursing or swearing falsely is not righteous in God's eyes, and therefore is not right for a Child of God to behave in that manner.

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It becomes extremely dangerous to live by ANY man's interpretation of the bible, or any other holy text (see Middle East)
God used Holy people to write His Word. That fact cannot be diminished or misunderstood. God guided them and their words. The only thing we can do, other than learn Hebrew and Greek, is to rely on other's translations. And since this is God's Word, we have to trust God in that His points and His udnerstanding and His message are the essence and soul of each official translation.

Since God is sovereign and creator of everything, He would not allow a translation to come to the point of completely destroying His message and intent. Otherwise would simply tell God that He isn't God and that Man can override His Word, in which we cannot.

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Here's an odd fact: Cursing has been scientifically proven to relieve pain for a short period of time.
Maybe so... but also take into account:

Matthew 5:5-6
[5] Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
[6] Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Matthew 5:8-9
[8] Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
[9] Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

A righteous person will do their best to follow God's Word and keep God's favor on them. This would include that person's actions, thoughts, intents and their speech.

Christian character and integrity will always be righteous in God's sight and should always be followed. If a Christian has a problem with how they should be acting, then the issue isn't God and His Word but rather it is that specific believer. They should seek God in prayer and seek His change in them.

As for what you left me with:
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I'll leave you with this - the most dangerous weapon on the planet is Man's interpretation of the Bible.
I'd use something quite different:
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A sinful man that has no desire for God or His ways is far more dangerous than the different between the KJV and the ESV or any other translation. As it is because of this sinful nature that we are in the state that we are in, our Human Condition. That Human Condition is rather simple... Man seperated from his Creator (God).(Or if you prefer, man seeking after his own selfishness rather than the ways of God.)
I hope and pray that you take these verses and these words and search your heart, pray to God for guidence by the Spirit and see that this article is an article of love. It is not here to hurt, but rather show that His love is kind, forgiving and at times correction for the believer.

God bless,
Johnathan
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# a Believer 2010-07-29 00:42
I also Want to say which i forgot in the first part that you can only truly understand the bible through the Holy Spirit. Otherwise you will have no understanding but your own. I pray that people read their bibles all the way through from cover to cover. That way you can begin to see the character of God. Be led in the Spirit and not in self. I speak for myself first. Praise be to God. It also says not to argue the Word of God. So yeah... I just came to say that...

Be blessed
A Believer

P.S. Religion is man made. God is not in religion. The bible speaks on that...
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# a Believer 2010-08-09 06:04
After studying the bible and understanding it in the original text, I have learned that the use of Christian was used as a term to make fun of those who followed Christ. That the bible uses believers. God brings curses but does not curse. Anything that you do and say will be judged before the Lord. I have also learned that when you do these things, it hurts God. The new testament Shows the reconciliation of humanity through Christ. The old testament shows what God does, and how He looks upon those who know Him and don't follow his commandments or keep His statutes. To justify anything about God doing evil when, I believe, the devil don't even cuss. He is out for your soul and that's it. When people get the Truth and not religion either they manifest a demon, get free, or reject the truth. Rejection of the truth brings curses and lots of pain... I know first hand from that. Most will not die to their flesh and/or totally submit to Christ because that means being uncomfortable and sacrificing something(s). It also means being led through a place that you have never been in by someone you cannot see to a place you have only heard about. It, to me, is a lack of faith. Its a lack of commitment because it takes giving up who you think you are to find your true identity in Christ. I hope this helps someone. I am only speak what I have lived and have been shown. I am a witness. I pray that this blesses you and that you go deeper than just reading. That you think and feel past yourself and go to where God wants you... Because where you want to go may be too small compared to where God wants to place you.

Be blessed!
A Believer
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# Steve 2010-09-10 14:36
Jonathan,

I can't help but find your arguments flawed. Most of them in fact. I refuse to believe that God would find that communicating with friends in a private place while using cuss words would be viewed as a sin. Notice I use the word "cuss" here and not "curse" because using those words quite plainly does not fall within the meaning of "curse" in any of the verses you mentioned. Not a single one. The word "curse" in this case refers to a negative intent towards another.

Cursing an object at all cannot be wrong, as Jesus himself did it. He cursed a fig tree so that it would no longer produce fruit. (Matt 21:18-22) + (Mark 11:12-14, 19-25)

Furthermore, I would state that you simply cannot use the "be in the world, not of the world" argument in this case. If you fully believed in that argument, then why are you here (on the internet)? Do you not eat at nice restaurants? Do you not buy yourself nice things? Those are clearly of the world, yet can you provide scriptural evidence that those are wrong? I would argue no, but it's far easier to prove a positive than a negative, which I think might be why you feel you have more evidence to your side of the argument than those that are arguing the contrary. I argue the negative.

I will, however say a few things on your side as well

Firstly, we shouldn't offend anyone. Offending people is clearly NOT in God's plan (I don't think I really even need to find the scripture to support this, it's all over the place.)

Secondly, cussing someone out in anger is the very nature of what the scriptures you have quoted in previous posts warns against. But again, saying any other word as an insult/curse(not to be confused with "cuss") is JUST AS WRONG. Period. If you stub your toe and say "F***!" when no one is around, then it's No more wrong than saying "OUCH!" or "FIDDLESTICKS!" They're just delivery methods, not the message itself.

And finally, this may be a little less obvious, but I find that cussing in front of children is also wrong, not because the words themselves are wrong, but because they may indirectly lead to my first point due to the lack of understanding of the word on the child's part. In that case, I believe that the one who taught the child is to blame, not the child.

In conclusion, I'm with the others in this thread that believe that the words themselves just plain ARE NOT WRONG. Regardless of their social use. It's just as wrong to use ANY word as a substitute or in a similar context. (barring the other three points of course) Cussing with a friend who doesn't mind it (or by yourself of course) as a sin just doesn't hold any scriptural water.

I think my motives in this are fairly pure, I don't find myself needing to cuss, and just plain don't do it for the most part, but I just don't find your arguments valid.

Anyhow, if you read this, thanks.
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# Nick 2010-10-16 04:53
I don't like it when the christian community says things such as...

"I believe that the Bible is strikingly clear that cussing, cursing and swearing are things that should never come from a Christian's mouth."

Let me rephrase this quote...

I believe that the Bible is strikingly clear that cussing, cursing and swearing are things that should never come from a ANYONE'S mouth.

I believe somewhere in the bible it says that once you bring god into your life and heart that you are no longer of a religion but of god.

I will have to research this more, but i am fairly sure we need to stop with these different religions worshiping different idols and start worshiping and reading our bibles and love and live gods way. instead of saying "i am christian" let us say "i am a child of the Lord"
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# Shawn Brown 2010-10-16 04:54
What is a really good way to learn an understand the scriptures in the bible?
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# johnathanamber 2010-10-16 12:19
To all: I apologize for not getting to this sooner.

@Nick,

Thank you so much for reading and commenting!

Although I agree that profanity should never be used... the fact is the those unsaved/unbelievers/lost, will do as they wish. And we, as Christians, can not judge them... We are here to love them and show them the love of God. God will judge them when their time comes.

But as a believer/saved/Christian, we have a moral compass/code/conduct that we are to follow... that is God's Word. So the need for us to follow His Ways is required for us. For the unbeliever it is not required since they follow their own god(s) and not the All Mighty.

Obviously we shouldn't worship other things and idols other than God and to deter this for others... but again people will worship what they will... we can only love them, pray for them, bless them and show them the love of God. God will work in their hearts but they will choose whether to ultimately love God or love their god(s).

They will make this choice... we can't make it for them. And since God gave us freewill... He will not violate that since that means that He would break His Word, which He won't.

@Shawn Brown,

Thank you so much as well for reading and commenting.

This answer has two separate paths.

The path of the believer of God's Word... who was created by God and is also a Child of God.

The path of the unbeliever... one who was created by God.

For believers... we have the Holy Spirit who guides us and shows us the truth and answers to the mysteries of the Bible.

For unbelievers... all they can do is look at commentaries, dictionaries and Bible concordances to figure out what the Bible says. They are not lead by the Spirit and therefore or left to their own understanding of what God says.

The Bible is clear about one thing though... for the unbeliever... not everything will be revealed to them in God's Word... but for the believer the true meaning and understanding of God's Word will be revealed in God's timing. Noe that this does not mean that EVERYTHING will be made clear. Just what God needs for us to understand.

God bless,
Johnathan
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# Brett 2010-11-16 11:34
I read every post on this comment string and I found people defending cussing on a basis that it is somehow not cursing or swearing as the bible addresses. In Certain theories of linguistics these things we shout out upon being hurt or in anger are called imprecations. These are things we yell out in public and often change depending on who's around or if it is in public or not. They are essentially curses on these things or the event that happened. If the thing that caused the imprecation was purely accidental then the curse could be essentially place on the one who allows all things to happen(God). If it was caused by another person then that curse is essentially being placed on that person. These words don't have to be the specific words "d**** _____" because the words "f***" and "S***" have come to encompass the whole phrase. It is a curse whether or not you have a specific person in mind while uttering it. Chances are you do have some idea in mind of anger towards someone or God/chance when uttering these things.

Other uses of cuss words are just it infiltrating common language as verbs, adjectives, and the like. It always carries a negative connotation though. And as was said multiple times by jonathan and others God wants us to use our mouths for positive and not negative.

Other words can be used as imprecations too, so it is probably best to avoid anything that substitutes or stands in(an abbreviation) for cursing. It's not easy, but the holy spirit can work on our lives if we search the word and pray for that change in us.
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# Alex 2010-11-16 11:36
Whats up everyone, I like the discussion going on here. But it kinda reminds me of an evolution vs. creation debate. No matter which side of the fence your on, you usually are going to stick with your opinion no matter what argument is presented. For me it's plain and simple: why is it so essential that we justify our cursing? its really kinda funny when you think about it. im not saying i dont slip a few words now and then, but we should all just realize that if their is potential sin in something that it should be "cast off". if you arm sins, cut it off. the same principle applies here. i see a lot of people trying to justify their uses for swearing but naturally it is in our fleshly nature to behave in such a way. Just drop it all together, i say. cast it along into the lake of fire and brimstone
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# Tim 2010-12-05 20:27
These discussions are always so funny to read. Christians talk about a perfect God who so loves man but yet they fail to see what God has done. He creates man in his own image and man rapes, murders, curses, etc (so what does that tell you about God?). He gives man free will but yet will punish them with eternal damnation unless they follow his rules. He sends his son to earth to die. What loving father would send his son to his death? What is the logic of a God who creates faulty humans and then punishes them for his own mistakes. Honestly I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than closed by belief.
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# Johnathan Morlock 2010-12-06 00:16
Welcome Tim,

First off, God bless you!

I pray you had a wonderful, safe... and full thanksgiving! I had a wonderful Thanksgiving!

Merry Christmas!

I wanted to interject some obvious points that you've missed... no offence of course.

God did make Man in His image. God is perfect, Man is not... and for one very important reason... Man allowed sin to corrupt God's creation. Simple as that.

Man rapes, murders, steals, cusses, blasphemies, etc. etc. not because God is imperfect... God is love, God is perfect and God is sinless. Man is imperfect, is without love and is sinful.

God made a plan for everyone. It is up to us to follow it.

With that, because of sin, most do not follow His plan for them. And with sin, comes consequence.

Great example, I've got 4 kids. I've told them time and time again to not do something specific and warn them that they'll get hurt... they end up doing what I said not to do... and even with the consequence of whatever action they've taken, they've also got to be punished for it. To learn to follow what I've said even though they may not know the reasons why. God is talking to us all the time... we simply are not listening.

With God being perfect, His Heaven being perfect... He cannot and will not allow sin into His Heaven. By doing that would corrupt His creation as well as make Him a liar which in turn would make everything He has said and done a lie. God does not lie... besides... God did make this creation perfect... and look at what we did to it. It is our fault things are the way they are, not God's.

About Jesus... Jesus is God. God in human flesh. God didn't just sacrifice His Son... He sacrificed Himself for us. Any daddy would sacrifice themselves for their own children. At least a dad that is a man and worth anything. Society tells us that we don't need the dad any longer... obviously society is wrong.

God didn't create anything imperfect. He didn't create Man imperfect... Man made His creation imperfect. It is Man's fault that we die, that we hurt, that women have great pain during labour, that anyone suffers any ailment, any caner... it is ALL Man's doing all because of this free will that God gave us. We chose to allow sin and death into an otherwise perfect creation.

Question... would He be loving is He didn't give us free will? No He wouldn't... simply because we would be robots, not real Children to our Father.

Let me ask you something Tim... if your son or daughter grows up, and you teach them as best you can to not do bad things that you know would hurt them... and they get old enough to be legal to drink, smoke, etc. and they end up hurting themselves... you have to allow them to do that... you can't be there for everything.

With everything that God gave us... it isn't that He isn't there... He is... problem is that we don't rely on Him or let Him in to help us resolve our problems. This isn't a limitation on God... it is simply that God is following the rules He had set.

If you wanted to get drunk.... even though it is bad for you... guess what... you can get drunk as much as you want because that is what you want. If you die from it... that was the consequence for your actions... no one did that to you other than you. You can't blame anyone for it but yourself. Our Father is talking to us all the time... we just aren't listening. Humans are like teenagers that think our parents are stupid and aren't worth anything but a car and cash to us. We talk down, take advantage... yet when we get hurt we cry out to Him. He helps us get out of a rut and we start the same process all over again. Some of us learn after our umpteenth time... but most don't learn.

That is how we treat our Father... as someone to be used instead of loved. He loves us so much that He is following His promises to us. His promise that we have free will to choose Him or not to choose Him. His promise that He is always there. His promise that if we accept Him that He would heal us and our land. His promise that He would bless us if we follow a few simple rules.

Every parent has rules for their child... without those boundaries... we turn into a society with careless people toward one another... where the selfish desires over shadow the rights of others and where those who do evil to others are rewarded and the ones who help are often are oppressed.

We did this to ourselves... you can't blame God for that. God gave us chance #1... and we blew it... now He is on chance #2... I am not blowing it... how about you? Chance #3 is coming...

God bless and Merry Christmas,
Johnathan
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# adam 2010-12-28 01:10
First I wanna say to Tim, I don't know you obviously but I love you and wish I could talk with you face to face. I can only love you because of the love the Lord has for me, and that is a LOVE I know like you know your name, bc I have had real experiences with Him and the love and peace I feel everyday! I'm sorry you have not been able to find that yet but I can see your looking for it whether u realize it or not, just by being on this site. And FyI, I know you have probably been burned by a "Christian" in the past and I dont want that to be your reference for the LORD or HIS love for you. If there is a way we can find a way to have an actual chat, I would love to, just to hear your thoughts and have an open conversation, maybe we will both learn.

Now as far as the cursing topic goes, well Im gonna go ahead and tell yall, Im probably gonna be the guy yall are thinking has lost it, or lost period! First of all ministry is where im called and I had been running from that for a long time, didn't want the responsibility! Anyway, I found that our generation from like 16-30,35...Im 27 fyi, want nothing to do with "Christianity", why? Because of all the b@##s$!t, and I mean that sincerely. Tired of all the isht they keep hearing, bout don't do this, can't do that, gotta do this this way, or that way AND not one church agrees with another, so what's so appealling about that, NOT TO MENTION, its kinda hard to find a REAL, straight talking follower of Christ, too much judgement, hypocrisy, and rules. every person in that age group I've talked with have similar stories, been burned by the "church" or see the same thing in it a mentioned.....okay all that to say, get over the small isht. Cussing bad? I don't know, maybe but who gives a.....there are lost people out there we should be reaching, however that means! Now I can only speak for me and for me cursing is not wrong, its a tool, a tool I use when talking to a 20 somethin yr old about whatever, automatically brings there walls down, if I know he uses language like that and he knows im a Christian, then he hears me in reference to the church hypocrisy say, "dude, f#@k that! Don't worry bout the s$&t you see, that's not what Good wants and not His desire for us" now of course explaining to Him the true unconditional, love he had for us, and explaining to him, I'm by no means perfect nor claim to be, but that im in relationship with the Lord and He is guiding me through my walk with Him....ITS all about you and your relationship to HIM, not about what people tell you its supposed to be, and if ur in real relationship and seeking Him more, He will guide you to the answers in His word, and His answers for your life, and with prayer you will find the answers as they are supposed to be, as he has shown you, not as you want it to be to fit your sinful life...true relationship will breed true growth, screw all the petty shit, cause that's up to God to worry bout between u and Him in each of our separate, different, relationships with HiM!!

But Jonathan, I do wanna say, the blog is awesome, very informative and I totally can see that God put it on your heart and is using you through this site, no doubt...I came curious bout this topic bc my view seems so crazy, but through reading your site, God confirmed my answer....thanks again Jonathan, and sorry for the ridiculously long post, hopefully it is helpful to someone
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# johnathanamber 2010-12-30 11:31
Hello Adam,

I pray you all had a wonderful and blessed Christmas and are going to have a wonderful, safe and Happy New Year!

Ah, the ministry... the Great Commission... I know EXACTLY what you mean. A family and I have started a church locally here and things are going well! We are currently looking for a permanent building. God is so great!

I've been called to be a pastor for years... and I was not really running away but being sure I was ready for it. Waiting on Him for the right timing. But in the interim... He gave me this site to 'preach' from and bless others with His Word.

And I see what you mean by our generation... I am also around the same age as you. :D

A real Christian, is one who loves... does not judge... and only follows the Bible. they don't interject their thinking or ideals into His Word... they follow the Word before them. God is the one that judges and has any right to do so. For any Christian to judge is taking the responsibilities of God and doing it themselves. Hence, judge not or lest be ye judged... We are not God nor are offered His obligations. The Spirit guides us and reveals His secrets to us as we have this relationship with Him.

I understand what you are saying of... "Why? what's the point if trying to cuss or not cuss" As it seems by your response... you have not understood how Christ portrayed Himself. No offense of course...

Is the goal of a Christian to be Christ-like in everything we do?

If the world sees that our tongue is no different than theirs... then what gives them the impression that we are different if all they hear are the same words they speak? How would they see that we have a love and peace they do not have without speaking to us directly? The world is to see that we are different from the first glance and hearing to the last. If Christians are cussing people out, flipping the finger while driving and behaving like the world does in bad situations... what makes us different? How do we tell them that we are different without even speaking to them? As far as the world sees, we aren't different if we act like they do!

The point I am making is this... the world desires to be saved... to be accepted... to be loved... and we are here to do just that! And if the world does not see us any differently than what they are... what makes you think that they would want to change and follow Christ? What benefit do they see in us if we act like them?

It gives them a false impression of who Christ is. If they see that we act just like they do, but call ourselves Christian... then it would be very simple for them to do the same and never accept Christ. Yet is that how we get so many religions and sects? A new person decides to put their twist and turn on His Word and... VIOLA... a new religion or sect. We must act differently in action, in form and in speech.

Perfect example of what Christ did in the worst situation...
When Christ was on the cross... what did He do?

Did He cuss and curse the Romans?

Did He cuss and curse the Jews?

What about the Pharisees, Sadducees and Elders?

Did He cuss and curse at God for forsaking Him?

Did He yell at them to "get me the "..." down"?

Did He do any of the above while being flogged or treated as such?

No, He didn't. And both situations are more than what any of us has bared.

We are to follow His example. Not be of the world (and be like the world) but be in it to show the world the need for Christ, His love and His light.

Adam,

Thank you for the blessing of commenting here and visiting the site. Your view isn't crazy nor alone... I've come across it before. I am curious... what has God used on this site to confirm to you? The posting above?

God bless you Adam and I pray that you also continue to seek His face and wisdom. I pray that what He has blessed me with will continue to bless you and others in your walk with Christ.

God bless,
Johnathan
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# rryder1 2011-01-24 22:49
I can agree with your point that christians should not use foul language. But i think there is context that needs to be taken into consideration. Is just saying oh "S*%t" when you stub your toe really a sin. Your not putting anyone down. You used the word exactly how you would with ouch. Theres nothing wrong with that. Some of you say well then but that words dirty and disgusting. All it means is poop. Its not sinful to say poop or talk about it. I dont see how using a curse word is a sin as long as its not out of anger and your not around people it would offend. There all just words theres nothing good or bad about them inherently.
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# Grant 2011-01-27 23:22
:whistle: Hmm. It doesn't really make things clear. If a person hates cussing,and he doesn't want to say the Bible doesn't say anything about the F word. He's not going to be convinced that there are words that are really just words.

I just can't see that wrongness of saying the "F" Word. If words are going to become a sin. We need a dictionary. Meaning we can't say the word "Noob, F***, S***, Darn, Heck, What!, Wimp, Butt, Penis, etc". We can't say that because according to this guy's context. We can easily sin by saying one word. And we've sinned. That sin does not come from that heart all the time.

The world think it's bad because everyone including Christains taught it to be wrong. i don't believe God did. When God said do not curse or swear, he is not talking about words, he's talking about actions. Curse is a new word for using profanity in USA. In the bibilical days, he was obviously talking about to hope destruction upon.

Tell me why it feels wrong to talk about sex to you kid. Tell me why it doesn't feel wrong to talk about sex to your wife. It's kind of the same with why the world think that the cuss word is wrong. If a Christian were talking about sex. I've seen some people in the world say "Whoa lost 5 Jesus points".

I keep being told that the Bible clearly says cussing is wrong. Do God really let society choose what words are going to become sin? It's clearly society that chose the words. Before 21st Century, the word "as*" was used on the time to describe a persons butt. Maybe a group of people didn't like that wrong being used, so they made it a cuss word so people couldn't use it.

I kind of think that cussing is wrong in case, but I'm not offended or bothered by people cussing.
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# johnathanamber 2011-01-29 03:02
@rryder1

Thank you for visiting, reading and commenting.

I don't think I've been clear on this... the word itself... yes, the Bible doesn't forbid us to say those specific words before they were misused. However, as previously noted several times... it is how you use them and if the world does see those words as negative, cussing, profanity, etc. etc. then they are things we should also not say. We are to be the light into the darkness.... not a soft cream/white light... but a bright shining clear and righteous light. One that is seen as good and pure and yes, even Holy.

If the world sees us as speaking like they do... how will they know that we are leading by example when we also encourage them to cuss, etc?

Living as an example in ALL that we do will show them the love of God... ALL off our actions are noted when they see us.... not just our words or our silent actions... but ALL of them.

That is why it is important to not speak like they do... and yes, even in silent when no one is around... your true character emerges. When you speak to God, do you use those words? If Jesus was talking with you... would you use them?

Again it is leading by example in ALL we do, not just in our silent, and seemingly fake, actions.

Everytime we cuss and curse and every profane word that comes out our mouth and the world sees/hears that.... they see us as frauds, fake and liars. They don't see Jesus... they see people 'playing' Christianity and not living it. That's why it is so very important for us to try harder and show His love.

@Grant,

Also thank you very much for visiting, reading and commenting.

I understand that you may believe that I am not convinced of what I speak of. But I assure you, I believe it and believe that the Bible is clear about the topic. So much so that I live by it as an example for others.

Words are more important than you make them out to be. They bring life or death to a situation, to a person and even into their very soul. They can even help make their decision to believe or not.

When you speak like the world speaks, cussing like they do, even in private, you are not using the same character that makes a Godly and righteous man. A righteous man is righteous in everything he does.... and that includes his speech.

The F word specifically is not sin... it is the use of ANY word that makes it sin. However, since the world see the F word as cussing... so do we see it negatively. Which puts further emphasis in that we should not use it, even when we are alone.

Problem is that the rest of the world see it as 'sin' also. Just because some use it so casually that it is regular in their vocabulary, doesn't make it right for a righteous man to use it, especially in the presence of others.

Using the same scripture references:
Jeremiah 23:10
Specifically talking about imprecating when in reference to swearing or cursing. Obviously it is making a direct correlation between the very land you live on and your words.

Psalms 10:7
A direct correlation between your language and how you are seen by God. If you are full of deceit, cursing, etc. you cannot be righteous. The word 'cursing' is the same word that was in Jeremiah 23:10.

Psalms 109:17
Cursing in this one means vilification... or being slanderous, to defame, to harm.

Question for you and everyone who is willing to answer...
According to James 3:9-12...

If you praise God one moment.... then cuss to someone, flip them the bird while driving or even using the same language as the world does to joke around... does these verses tell you anything different? Things that you should not do?

As Christians we are to bless others. We are to sing praise to God and show His love... how can you curse, using the worlds language, at them or even at the rock you stubbed your toe on? That rock that you stubbed your toe on... was that also not one of God's creation? Why would your cuss at it?

The point being in that even if no one is around, God is, and He notes everything we do and say. Those seemingly harmless expressions of the world's meaning of profanity... do more harm than good, God knows that and notes every single one you say and you will be accountable for each one.

There is nothing wrong about talking about sex, or even to your kids. It is not evil or wrong. It is a blessing and a gift from God. The world has made it into something it is not with promoting it outside of marriage, etc.

God didn't have a dictionary since any word can be used to curse, swear or cuss. But if the world does see it that way... so should we and we should not use them.

Again, speaking harm to something/someone is wrong. It is not the character of a God fearing/loving/following man. Even a seemingly unharmful expression to a tree or rock is even wrong in His eyes.

Matthew 12:36-37 from above is pretty clear to me. Why take a chance to use the world's words in that you maybe wrong in that it was still wrong to say them if even in a seemingly meaningless way.

Do you really believe that in reference to Ephesians 4:29 that your speaking the way the world speaks with profanity will actually help others?

What about Titus 2:7-8?
(Titus 2:7) In all things having shown yourself a pattern of good works: in the doctrine, purity, sensibleness, without corruption,
(Titus 2:8) in sound speech that cannot be condemned, that he who is opposed may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.

What does that tell you?

Is 'sound speech' cussing? What about pure and sensible? To you it may not mean much.... but it does to everyone else and God.

You are correct that society chose those words... yet they even see them as bad. Even if they decided to use the word 'yoodle' as a way of cussing... then that should also not be said as it portrays evil to God.

I am not really taking offense to others who use it or by hearing it. I do not speak it, and I try my best to now surround myself by it or experience it.

But I am working hard against my flesh while here to show others that the love that God has for them is more than just a warm plate of food in the winter, or a cold drink in summer or even the courtesy of a reply to everyone's objection on this article... we are to be His hands and feet and show His love, life and light into this world.... and we can't truely do that by cussing at God's creation, at each other or even ourselves.

I'll leave you with this last, but very important, verse:
‎1 Peter 1:13-16
-Therefore girding up the loins of your mind, being sober, perfectly hope for the grace being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ,
-as obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance,
-but according to the Holy One who has called you, you also become holy in all conduct,
-because it is written, "Be holy, for I am holy."

God bless you both,
Johnathan
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# Grant 2011-02-26 13:08
I see what you mean. When you cuss and use certain words to explain yourself, it makes it hard to speak clean in the future. Instead of practicing cussing language, we should practice clean language. It's not how we think that cussing is just a word, because words have meanings. If you cuss a lot, believe it or not, it will add to your Vocabulary so it will make it hard for you not to cuss in front of people. Everything you said was right. Now I need to repent. God Bless.
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# American_Jedi 2011-02-08 08:56
Recall this line of scripture Johnathan??.....

"Let he who is WITHOUT SIN...cast the first stone."

True the use of profane language is a sinful practice but, in today's world it is virtually unavoidable.
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# johnathanamber 2011-02-08 16:07
@American_Jedi,

On an unrelated note... did you see that SuperBowl commercial with the kid dressed as Darth Vader?

Welcome and thank you for reading and commenting on the article.

I know the scripture very well.

None of us is without sin. Only after accepting Christ could we even attempt anything close. And even after we are saved... all of us struggle with some form of sin, usually from our past life.

I hope you aren't thinking I am 'casting a stone' to those who do?

I am trying to portray the fact that cussing, etc. is not Christian behavior and we as Christians should do our best to avoid it. Also, as Christians we should always take everything we hear from fellow believers and take it as constructive criticism and not retaliate against those who are just trying to help because it makes us uncomfortable, makes us feel judged, etc. Even God uses the unsaved to chastise/correct those who are saved. So whomever you hear something that could be criticism toward us... we should always take it to God so He can work in us if need be.

Just because something is unavoidable doesn't mean we must partake in it.

For the most part I was pertining to the use of... you can't help but to hear it from others. But what do you do with it once you hear it? Do you use it, or do you give it to God to handle in your life?

God bless,
Johnathan
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# honest9 2011-03-06 00:00
Who gives yo the right to judge?! Im pretty sure that is against everthi.g you believe in. Just because people cuss don't make them a bad person. This is absolutely insain. Yes it might she signs of ignorace but it does show signs of lacking faith or being evil. Hu people are being harsh. Let God judge and people follow him not I. Evelness but in life. Life in freedom not being judged
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# Grant 2011-03-07 17:19
Sin makes a person bad. In the Bible, it says cussing is filthy communication and tells us to avoid it. It wouldn't be a sin to the world because they're not misrepresenting anyone.

We as Christians, if we use this filthy communication, it's misrepresenting Jesus since Jesus wouldn't use filthy language to communicate. In hind's sight, it is just a word, why would you want to say these kinds of words, especially if they are considered filthy in the WHOLE United States. It's ignorant. You wouldn't joke about Arabic people, it's just a joke.
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# johnathanamber 2011-03-06 01:04
Welcome Honest9!

Thank you for reading and commenting. I pray that your day has been blessed!

You have misunderstood several critical points about this article.

I am not judging anyone. Instead I am showing how the Bible sees things like cussing, etc. are not apart of the Christian lifestyle and should not be apart of it.

We've already established that our words are powerful and speak life or death into other things, people and situations. We've also seen that our words can be a stumbling block for new Christians and even unbelievers.

Do you remember Romans 14:13:
"Then let us not judge one another any more, but rather judge this, not to put a stumbling-block or an offense toward his brother."

As it seems, like most people who quote the Bible, you've missed the 2nd part in that verse, "not to put a stumbling-block or an offense toward his brother."

Have you also not read the article I've added the end?
"How To Take Criticism"

As believers in Christ, we know that God uses other believer and unbelievers alike, to correct us and give us 'instruction' on how we should act, on what we are to do, etc.

Hebrews 4:12 shows that God criticizes us:
"For the Word of God is living and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing apart of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."

You should read 1 Peter 2:
"1 Therefore laying aside all malice and all guile and hypocrisies and envyings, and all evil speakings,
2 desire the sincere milk of the Word, as newborn babes, so that you may grow by it;
3 if truly you have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
...
7 Therefore to you who believe is the honor. But to those who are disobedient, He is the Stone which the builders rejected; this One came to be the Head of the corner,
8 and a Stone-of-stumbling and a Rock-of-offense to those disobeying, who stumble at the Word, to which they also were appointed.
...
11 Dearly beloved, I exhort you as temporary residents and pilgrims to abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul,
12 having your conduct honest among the nations, in that which they speak against you as evildoers, they may glorify God in a day of His visitation, seeing your good works.
13 Then be in obedience to every ordinance of men, because of the Lord, whether to a king as supreme,
14 or to governors as sent by Him for vengeance on evildoers, but for praise on well-doers.
15 For such is the will of God, doing good to silence the ignorance of foolish men;
16 as free, and not having freedom as a cover of evil, but as servants of God.
17 Honor all. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king.
...
20 For what glory is it if you patiently endure while sinning and being buffeted? But if you suffer while doing good, and patiently endure, this is a grace from God.
21 For you were not called to this? For Christ also suffered on our behalf, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps,
22 He who did no sin, nor was guile found in His mouth,
23 who when He was reviled did not revile in return. When He suffered, He did not threaten, but gave Himself up to Him who judges righteously.
24 He Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that dying to sins, we might live to righteousness; by whose stripes you were healed.
25 For you were as sheep going astray, but now you are turned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls."

The chapter above shows us several points that we should understand. One of those points is in verses 22-23:
"22 He who did no sin, nor was guile found in His mouth,
23 who when He was reviled did not revile in return. When He suffered, He did not threaten, but gave Himself up to Him who judges righteously."

To revile is to:
"Reproached; treated with opprobrious or contemptuous language."

I hope and pray that you understand that this article is not one person judging another... but showing God judging through His Word. As every point that was brought against this article, I've used scripture to show the truth in His Word.

God loves you and wants nothing but the best for you, as do I, and if you'd rather live like the world does, no one can change your mind. The fact that you've read and understood His Word, the Bible is very clear:
"8 But to those who indeed disobeying the truth out of self-seeking, and obeying unrighteousness, will be anger and wrath,
9 tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man who has worked out evil; of the Jew first, and also of the Greek.
10 But He will give glory, honor and peace to every man who works good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek."

Take instruction from God and His Word, and use it to judge yourself so you cannot be judged by man or by God. If you judge yourself and correct yourself by God's Word... you save yourself from His wrath and gain righteousness in His sight.

I am simply reiterating what God has already said in His Word.

God bless,
Johnathan
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# Paolo of Melbourne 2011-03-18 00:08
Basically after reading through the blog and all the posts it's confirmed what I've been going over in my head for a long time.

1. The Bible talks about not cursing or swearing by. This is completely different to using curse words or "swearing".
2. The English language has evolved over time and words which were once "swear words" are now used in everyday language, even by Christians. Does this mean that Christians are sinning by saying words such as "blimey" and "gadzooks"? Certainly not! So where do we draw the line? Here in Australia the S*** word is accepted in the media and is all over daytime TV and newspapers. In 20 years this word will just be as normal as crap. When will Christians accept it?
3. It is not necessarily WHAT you say but HOW you say it and with what intentions. For instance someone mentioned calling someone "dumb" maliciously can be offensive to them and I consider that to be against what the bible teaches.

In conclusion:
Although using cuss words isn't wrong as some people like to think (even though it's taking the BIble out of context), these cuss words are associated with "bad people" and non-Christians will call swearing Christians hypocrites so I believe it's best to avoid using them. Most importantly our words should be used to glorify God and edify other believers, so it's not going to hurt you to cut this out of your vocabulary.

Remember we're accountable for every idle word, and I'd rather use my words to praise my Saviour.

Point of this post is just so people don't feel bad if a cuss word slips out.
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# YHWH\s_servant 2011-04-09 16:03
1 Corinthians 6

9 Know ye not that the UNRIGHTEOUS shall NOT inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, NOR REVILERS, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

:: Definition of REVILE

transitive verb
: to subject to verbal abuse : vituperate

intransitive verb
: to use abusive language : rail ::
~ Meriam Webster Dictionary (m-w.com)

Matthew 12
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
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# Guest 2011-04-26 14:19
:D cursing is bad but some people claim to be christains and they yhemselves curse :woohoo: :sad: so people who are not christans dont even curse :woohoo:
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# Jason Craig 2011-04-26 22:39
How can you honestly say that? You lack so much biblical and theological knowledge, its not even funny. That is utterly heretical.
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# ThankfultoGod 2011-05-03 13:22
Thank you for this article! The scriptures have helped a lot! A friend of mine and I were discussing this the other day! God bless! :-)
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# Johnathan Morlock 2011-05-03 21:56
@Jason Craig,

Who might you be referring to? Who is being heretical?

@ThankfultoGod,

You are most welcome. God had me write this for everyone as well as myself. I love finding out things in His Word. :D

God bless you all,
Johnathan
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# Guest 2011-05-19 14:00
you do realise that in biblical times "cursing" was fu**ing CURSES! "may boils fester on your bottom" and such.

seriously. get the hell out of the dark ages.
they're words. WORDS, i tell you!
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# ttr 2011-05-24 09:33
Hi there,

I didn't see that anyone had mentioned Colossions 3:8? I think that would really help:
"By these you too once conducted yourselves, when you lived in that way.
But now you must put them all away: anger, fury, malice, slander, and obscene language out of your mouths."

in the greek it is rendered "aischrologian" or "filthy speech".

biblos.com/colossians/3-8.htm
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# Totianna 2011-06-05 19:33
I agree that the context in which some words are used makes it a sin. I also agree that children of God should be in the world and not of the world as stated many times. However, I do not believe that just because "society" has labeled something "bad" or "unacceptable" that we as children of God should stop using it. Time does play a factor in the meaning of words and rules. For example, you asked if the Constitution was less relevent because it was old? The answer is yes, which is why they made Admenments to it. The thought process of humans change over time. The definition of a word 20 years ago may not be interpreted the same today. My point is, society should not determain how we live our lives; I should feel free to use any word I like to describe poop as long as people know that I am describing poop. Here's another example of letting society control things, the rainbow. The homosexual community has taken the symbol of a rainbow to represent their lifestyle. Children or God know that God used the rainbow as a promise that he would never flood the earth again. So should I not wear a rainbow shirt or hat or jewlery for fear that someone will determine that I'm homosexual?
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# Carman Tristan 2011-06-19 14:57
Wow! I am so touched by what I have read regarding cussing, what comes out of our mouths reflects our Lord. I hope you don't mind but I need to copy some of the things you have written so I also can share with friends and family who do this. Great inspiration form your comments!! Keep blessing us as you are blessed! Have a beautiful blessed day Johnathan!
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# Johnathan Morlock 2011-06-19 22:26
@Carman Tristan,

I am so glad that God has helped you with your walk with Christ and this article. God bless you brother!

Everyone is welcome to use this to bless others.

@Ant,

I do not believe you have read/understand this entire article nor the comments. It reflects the character of Christ to the unbelievers when we use profanity as it being OK to use and of no importance... but it simply is not true that we can say what we want and everything will be OK or that is doesn't have any meaning in our words. Christ's character is to bless others, not curse them or hurt them, even in our speech are we to be righteous.

@ttr,

Thank you very much, I will also add "Colossions 3:8". God bless you!

@Totianna,

If the world see some words as profanity... why should the body of Christ see it any different? We do live here and live by some standards that the world hands us... i.e. we all use money, we all have certain things we do based solely on worldly things, etc. These things allow us to be in this world, ralate to this world and and bless others with God's Word.

Also, I am not suggesting that everything changes based on society and its fad at the time... all I am suggesting is that we be Christ's hands and feet. So if it means speaking properly, not making others stumble by using inappropriate language... then that is what we should do. Do you seriously think that Christ would use today's profanity or at any period of time to believers or unbelievers?

It is in practice that we become righteous. If you know for a fact that saying certain things to some people will hurt them... but it is OK with your friends... then you should still not say them. It is in practice. Furthermore, again you never know who is listening... almost everything we do now-a-days is being recorded in some way shape or form... so we need to always be in practice of the things that make us the Children of God... not just part of them time... that would make us hypocrites.

Totianna, do you completely discount 1 Peter 1:15? We are to practice our faith all the time. It doesn't say part of the time, or it is OK to be different in front of friends or family... it says all the time. So even saying those words you know would offend others in secret or with friends is also being hypocritical.

Righteousness in practice all the time.

God bless you all,
Johnathan
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# Jay 2011-06-22 01:06
Everything I see points to cursing in comparison to blessing. Don't you see? It isn't about cussing, it's about cursing. Cursing as in a hex, something a witch does, something negative. The opposite of blessing.

There is nothing against an excited, whether in joy, pain, etc. of a cuss word.

I would also contend that the Christians who say that cussing is against the Word, then exclaim, "darn it" "gosh" etc. Are committing exactly what they preach against.

I cuss, and see no problem with it except when a person has no other means to express themselves. Then it becomes a crutch and shows ignorance. I can hang with the most educated of talkers, and I can cuss with the guys during a hunting trip. It is situation dependent.
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# alan 2011-07-26 18:56
wow my friend who is a great christian didnt think that cursing was wrong, and this is excactly what i needed to show him it was
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# Johnathan Morlock 2011-07-27 09:47
@Jay,

I see what you mean... however it still doesn't excuse the fact that even with 'situation dependant' circumstances you can still act like the world when Christ himself didn't under the most dire circumstances and doesn't excuse it even for your circumstances.

It is not in Christian character even with close friends, being excited or being hurt.

Even while He was on the cross... He could have cursed us for putting Him there.. yet He did what His character demands... He asked for God to forgive them for what they've done.

@Alan,

It warms my heart that this can be a blessing to others as yourself and your friend.

God bless you both,
Johnathan
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# Lauren 2011-08-01 00:27
Well I just wanted to say thank you so much for this! Being around young people you hear so much swearing and I'm always trying to explain why it isn't only disrespectful but also a sin. of course they never believe you and just blow you off so i think this is amazing and I'm certainly going to show it to more people.

God bless you!
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# Lauren 2011-08-01 00:37
:lol:
Well I just wanted to say say thanks soooo much for this article! I think its amazing because being around young people you hear so much swearing and frankly im very sick of it. You'll try to explain why its not only disrespectful but also AGAINST THE LORD! but they just blow you off. So i Thank you for this effort that your making and I pray you make a difference!

God Bless!
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# Makela 2011-08-19 09:10
Thank you for posting this. I can relate so much to "if you speak life, life is given; and if you speak death, death is given."

My husband often prays for blessings from the Lord "may you bless the work of our hands today..." However when things don't go his way he swears "f***, d***, com'on! I can never do anything right!".

His mouth brings death to his life, his work, his marriage over the Lord's blessing. I'm sick and tired of it, and every time he swears I feel like leaving him for good. I believe he can do great things but he doesn't, and by swearing he convinced me he can't. I no long feel like praying together... and if we do, deep down I don't feel like 'amen' with him! What is the point of asking for blessing this moment and then swear and curse next?

I believe when we're surrounded by people who swears and curses a lot, it drains you. It really does and when the relationship is completely drained... it's dead.

These little, short, 4**** words are more powerful and destructive than we think it is... Not sure when the death comes, but what I know for sure is it doesn't bring life.
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# Johnathan Morlock 2011-08-19 12:54
Thank you Makela for visiting, reading and posting.

I am glad that this article helped you.

There are a lot of Christians who really don't work the blessings and understandings of God. What I mean is that God gives us certain things, i.e. promises, blessings, paths to take etc., and we don't use them as we should. God wants us to learn from the things He gives us to better our understanding and strengthen our faith in Him, making us more perfect with each lesson and closer to who He is.

When you married your husband... you took a vow. Of course you know that... but it means that leaving him based on his language would mean you have broken that vow. With that, don't be discouraged when he says those things. Rather encourage his Spirit with the Word of God. Pray with him more. Show him the love that God gave you. Yes, it would be difficult, but you would be showing the love of God to your husband. Only God's love can change him. We can't change our spouse. We can only show them what God says about the matter, pray for them and show them His love.

God can still use your husband, even though his faith maybe weak... and he may not know all the promises of God... and he may not realize what he is doing. Show him the word of God, that he is supposed to be the Head of Household leading your family to Our Father. He is the Spiritual Leader... show him that is his role. Encouragement through the Word of God and actions based on His Word are the best things you can do about this situation. Leaving him will do nothing but hurt everyone involved, especially any children, and it would also not show him any benefit of your faith in God. Giving up on your husband is the same as saying that God can't change him. Given there are certain points in life in which we as humans decide not to ever follow God... but if your husband has really accepted Christ... then God has him forever and can change him.

Like a fire... all it takes to start a raging inferno is a spark... the same is with our Spirits... God can bring them back to life with a spark. It takes regular and daily regeneration of our Spirit to continue fighting Satan and his legion. This is all because we are human... we are weak and He is strong. We are imperfect, He is perfect. We have tainted/selfish love, He has perfect love. This is why we need regeneration of our Spirit regularly to not forget, to understand and the work in His Love.

Words bring people great joy... and even cause some to kill. Words are very powerful and affect everything. Like water against rocks... the rocks are hard and seem impenetrable... yet water erodes them over time. Like lifeless words, they erode us over time and eventually we break. Whether that is breaking our Spirit, breaking our will or taking our life... if words of Life do not come... this is our fate.

Encourage your husband with the Word of God. Show him this article, read the Word to him, pray to God on his behalf. Don't give up! Don't let go! Bring him to God and let God handle it.

God bless you dear sister and your husband and family,
Johnathan
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# Josh 2011-09-02 03:02
i dont think swearing is a sin. that being said taking the lords name is vain is. if i say the word f*** in casual conversation there is nothing wrong with it, language itself is not the problem but rather the intention of the words. to say something in anger or jelousy or what have you is the problem. i can be just as "evil" without saying f*** or b**** or c***, but its intent that is sinful and not our words.
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# Nicholas Pendergast 2011-09-02 03:05
The swearing that is being refereed to in many of these passages is committing an oath, when you swear an oath to an individual, and you can see that in many of the passages where they reference adultery. You are breaking an oath when you are adulterous, and this causes great pain upon the person you're swearing it to, and it creates a bad habit with the person responsible. When you swear to God that you are going to do something and don't do it, that's what swearing falsely implies... and it's plain to see why this is bad, and that's what I observed in the text.

Biblical figures gave harsh criticisms and swore against their rivals all the time, and I don't think many of the swears used today are any less condescending. Still, cussing is something that should be practiced appropriately. If in groups of people who use that language commonly, I have no problem using the language of my rebellious youth. Sometimes you have to use that language with troubled teens for them to respect you as well. But with authority figures or at a dinner it's obviously another thing, and we should be preemptive about what we say no matter where we are by studying the habits of those we are with.


God bless.
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# Mike G. 2011-09-02 03:05
I have been searching the web to find out what to say to christians or non-christians that cuss. Everyone these days seem to think it is ok to cuss. It is the Christian's job to warn the wicked of their wicked ways so I want to find the words to help everyone. Question - If we proclaim to be a Christian can we go to our churches....stand up in front of everyone...and feel good about cussing in front of everyone? If the Holy Spirit dwells within you..you will know if something is right or not because he will tell you. If you have to think about it and it doesn't feel right in your gut "its wrong". Here are some of Gods Words that have helped me put cussing into perspective. God Bless You All.

James 3:10 (KJV)
Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

James 1:26(KJV)
If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
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# Johnathan Morlock 2011-09-02 11:20
@Nicholas,

Thank you for reading and commenting.

I realize the difference between the swearing (promise or covenant) in Biblical times and what swearing means today.

In truth there really isn't much relation with each other.

However, I did note it as again, it means something different today then it used to, except in a court of law.

When most people hear the word 'swear' they do not think of making a promise or covenant, they think of profanity. So that is why I included it.

Also, note the verses I did post... a part of Christian character is to be truthful always, so don't swear falsely (make a promise or covenant and break it, etc.).

I still proclaim that no matter whom you are conversing with... it still isn't within Christian character to cuss. I still believe the Bible is clear on that.

@Mike,

Thank you for visiting and commenting.

I agree with what you are saying.

The issue here is dealing with the specific words AND how they are used. Either way, a Christian's character is compromised when using either the world's profane words or your own.

Thank you for the verses as well.

@Josh,

Please have some civility and respect to others when posting.

I hoped to make the point more clear with the article and the previous comments. Maybe this will help...

Both the words and their intent matter. The words matter because they matter to the world and how it reflects a Christian toward non-Christians. If we use the same words as everyone else... what shows the love of God if a change is not evident?

When we, Christians, use the same words as the world to cuss and rant/rave and show disdain... to the rest of the world we are the same as them with a religious bias. We need to show the workings of the Holy Spirit inside us and show the world that we are, in fact, different because of the Holy Spirit living with us. We need to show the world this new creature inside us... not the old one everyone already sees and expects.

Thank you for visiting and commenting.

God bless you all and thanks again,
Johnathan
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# Johnathan Morlock 2011-09-10 21:36
Hey Kate,

I pray all your friends and family are well during this 9/11 weekend.

To God, sin is sin. None of it can enter in Heaven whether you steal, commit adultery or covet things from others.

Based on that, I believe that no matter the word, they are all cussing and all are equal. The point in all this is that no matter the word, if you use the world's words or your own, it is the same and isn't Christian behavior to cuss.

I pray this helps.

God bless,
Johnathan
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# Kate 2011-09-25 06:16
I know that cursing is bad, but I was wondering if certain words were worse than others, or are they all just bad, period?
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# Kate 2011-09-25 06:17
Thank you for your reply, it was helpful. :-)

May you continue to help others :D
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# Johnathan Morlock 2011-10-02 06:56
Maddie,

Thank you very much for reading and posting. :D

Here are some scriptures for thought about this:
I Thessalonians 5:21-22
Proverbs 10:31-32
Matthew 12:35-37
Colossians 3:8
Ephesians 4:29-32
James 3:5-10
James 4:4
James 4:17
I Peter 1:14-16

I believe it is clear that throughout the Bible, both old and new testaments, that our speech is important. With that, we are liable for each an every word out of our mouth. Some of it is evil and some of it good.

As we all know... anything evil cannot and will not enter Heaven.

I pray that this helps you in your walk with Christ. Know that He loves you and wants nothing but the best for you. If you follow His ways, you will be blessed.

God bless,
Johnathan
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# Maddie 2011-10-02 08:39
Well, I do not have a problem with cursing but my friends, who always curse, are trying to get me to start. :confused: Every once in a while I will have a small "slip-up" and when I do I cover my mouth and say sorry to the lord. :unsure: But my real question is if you cuss does that ruin your chances of getting into heaven at all :-?: :-?:
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# Charmin 2011-10-26 21:31
I do cuss probably a little too much but what defines cussing like what words. I NEVER EVER use His name in vein. I rarely call people bad names. I do use cuss words but never in a bad way. Like i use dam as like an explanation. Like WOW! or like when we are gonna play a team we tease each other about kickin their as*es. But if it's not intended in a bad way is it really still cussing? I thought cussing was only when you used His name in vein.
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# mabwriter 2011-11-14 05:16
For instance if I am reading it right it is how you use the word. For example: "I love my mother" and "I love to kill". In the first example love is used in a good way, in the second it is used in a bad way.

I know I am being nitpicky and may come off as someone trying to make excuses, but I'm just wanting to know if I should talk to everyone if they use a word the world considers a swear. If someone is mad and they use it in anger, then I should witness to them, but if someone say wins a contest or something of that nature and says something like "H--- YEAH!" Since they are not using it in a hateful or negative way, is it still bad.
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# destiny 2011-11-18 03:38
Thank you ttr ! Exact answer to the question I was looking for and exact site . I had the site in my head but couldn't remember what it was called ! Perfection
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# Guest 2011-11-18 04:23
Most of these bible verses are taken out of context. I do believe the bible is against cursing against people and all that, what I don't understand is why do the words you use to do it make a difference? You said if you speak with the world's language you are of the world, is it not from the world to pick certain words to put a taboo on?
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# Johnathan Morlock 2011-11-18 10:39
@Charmin,

Thanks for posting!

Think about it this way... if a person walking by hears you say those words... what would they think if they knew you were a Christian?

It is a matter of being a light to the world by being righteous in everything we do, so that includes our speech to those that hear us even though it maybe not be directed to them.

@Destiny,

I am glad that God was able to use this site to help you with your walk with Christ.

@Mabwriter,

Thanks for posting!

How we use our words and what words we use are all important.
The 'what' is more in representation to others and the world.
The 'how' is more for us and our walk to be Christ-like and righteous.

I try to portray this to my kids:
If someone else is doing something, what do you do?

I try to show them that it is important how we live our lives is more important. To be righteous is being righteous in everything we do, from our actions to our words. Being righteous in God's sight is very hard to do, no doubt, and it takes a long time. But if you are serious in your walk with Christ and being a real Christian, that is what we are striving for... to be righteous in God's sight. To be blameless and spotless.

Talking with others who cuss is something we have to deal with. We can only try to persuade them that it is wrong, we can't force them. But when you are around those people and profess to be Christian but then act and talk like they do who are not Christian or are not serious about it, it only shows them that Christianity isn't serious. We have to be an example to everyone and to preach His Word when we have a chance.

I do not cuss, not at work, not at the store, and not at home. It is an active and constant work that I have to monitor since I am surrounded by co-workers who do, by people in the media and everyone else around me. This makes it harder... but I am adamant in being as Christ-like as humanly possible.

I hope this helps.

@Anonymous,

Thanks for posting!

You say these are out of context... each one of the above verse are important in showing what Christian character and integrity is supposed to be.

Our very speech is to be clean and righteous in order for us to be righteous.

Can you give me a single verse that is out of context with the context I just mentioned?
"each one of the above verse are important in showing what Christian character and integrity is supposed to be."

The world picked words to use to be profane. Because they are considered profane, so must we if we are to claim to be Christian. So the words we use and how they are used is all important.

Being of the world is acting and doing what the world does. Not everything the world does is evil: paying bills, having a car, going to school, etc. (I listed those simply because some will be ridiculous and say that since the world does these things than neither should we.) But certain things the world does is evil in nature and we should stray away from them: cussing, getting drunk, abortions, sex outside marriage, stealing, etc.

We are in this world and have to deal with it and it's evils. We don't have to be of this world.

God bless you guys and thanks for reading and posting.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving, a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year,
Johnathan
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# Amanda 2011-11-28 19:49
Johnathan,

I am a Christian, and have been since as far back as I can remember. I was raised in a Christian home, my parents are both Christian, as are my grandparents, and my entire family tree has Christians in it. Our ancestors were of the French who fled to America while being persecuted, though one of my ancestors was actually a leader of the early Mormon movement.

That being said, I was raised and told that using cuss words was wrong. However, they never TAUGHT me why that was, so I'm having to figure it out for myself. Moreover, I'm not going to simply accept a person's answer one way or the other, even if it simply reinforces my belief on the topic. I want actual proof of it.

While you're posts and articles seem all right, I noticed some flaws in it, though they were stated more clearly by two people whom you never addressed in these posts. I will simply re-post them, and I would be interested in seeing your responses to them.

"By Steve

Jonathan,

I can't help but find your arguments flawed. Most of them in fact. I refuse to believe that God would find that communicating with friends in a private place while using cuss words would be viewed as a sin. Notice I use the word "cuss" here and not "curse" because using those words quite plainly does not fall within the meaning of "curse" in any of the verses you mentioned. Not a single one. The word "curse" in this case refers to a negative intent towards another.

Cursing an object at all cannot be wrong, as Jesus himself did it. He cursed a fig tree so that it would no longer produce fruit. (Matt 21:18-22) + (Mark 11:12-14, 19-25)

Furthermore, I would state that you simply cannot use the "be in the world, not of the world" argument in this case. If you fully believed in that argument, then why are you here (on the internet)? Do you not eat at nice restaurants? Do you not buy yourself nice things? Those are clearly of the world, yet can you provide scriptural evidence that those are wrong? I would argue no, but it's far easier to prove a positive than a negative, which I think might be why you feel you have more evidence to your side of the argument than those that are arguing the contrary. I argue the negative.

I will, however say a few things on your side as well

Firstly, we shouldn't offend anyone. Offending people is clearly NOT in God's plan (I don't think I really even need to find the scripture to support this, it's all over the place.)

Secondly, cussing someone out in anger is the very nature of what the scriptures you have quoted in previous posts warns against. But again, saying any other word as an insult/curse(not to be confused with "cuss";-) is JUST AS WRONG. Period. If you stub your toe and say "F***!" when no one is around, then it's No more wrong than saying "OUCH!" or "FIDDLESTICKS!" They're just delivery methods, not the message itself.

And finally, this may be a little less obvious, but I find that cussing in front of children is also wrong, not because the words themselves are wrong, but because they may indirectly lead to my first point due to the lack of understanding of the word on the child's part. In that case, I believe that the one who taught the child is to blame, not the child.

In conclusion, I'm with the others in this thread that believe that the words themselves just plain ARE NOT WRONG. Regardless of their social use. It's just as wrong to use ANY word as a substitute or in a similar context. (barring the other three points of course) Cussing with a friend who doesn't mind it (or by yourself of course) as a sin just doesn't hold any scriptural water.

I think my motives in this are fairly pure, I don't find myself needing to cuss, and just plain don't do it for the most part, but I just don't find your arguments valid.

Anyhow, if you read this, thanks."

And then the second one:

"By Paolo of Melbourne

Basically after reading through the blog and all the posts it's confirmed what I've been going over in my head for a long time.

1. The Bible talks about not cursing or swearing by. This is completely different to using curse words or "swearing".
2. The English language has evolved over time and words which were once "swear words" are now used in everyday language, even by Christians. Does this mean that Christians are sinning by saying words such as "blimey" and "gadzooks"? Certainly not! So where do we draw the line? Here in Australia the S*** word is accepted in the media and is all over daytime TV and newspapers. In 20 years this word will just be as normal as crap. When will Christians accept it?
3. It is not necessarily WHAT you say but HOW you say it and with what intentions. For instance someone mentioned calling someone "dumb" maliciously can be offensive to them and I consider that to be against what the bible teaches.

In conclusion:
Although using cuss words isn't wrong as some people like to think (even though it's taking the BIble out of context), these cuss words are associated with "bad people" and non-Christians will call swearing Christians hypocrites so I believe it's best to avoid using them. Most importantly our words should be used to glorify God and edify other believers, so it's not going to hurt you to cut this out of your vocabulary.

Remember we're accountable for every idle word, and I'd rather use my words to praise my Saviour.

Point of this post is just so people don't feel bad if a cuss word slips out."

They raise good points, and I'd be interested in what you have to say in response to these.
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# Roberta Gray 2011-12-14 16:09
I was told by a reliable source, I like to call him Papa G, that the gift of tongues is the ability to speak to a variety of people using language that is familiar to them, so they can understand, and converse comfortably to ask questions, give feedback, and gain trust.

So if I have to drop a few f bombs to reach a lost kid who uses the "bad words" that you can't say on tv, but can watch on cable, it's not cursing.

Is it cursing when the kids starts to have hope and says" I used to hate God, but I think that MF is the shit. I was about to leave this b^^^ch earth because people looked down on me for being a kid from the f'n hood?

or

A "christian" looking down at the kids saying, "God hates cursing. You are going to Hell. You should be ashamed of yourself. That is filthy and vile, what's wrong with you, don't you love Jesus? He died for your sins. I rebuke you."

What is swearing?
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# Johnathan Morlock 2011-12-15 16:50
@Amanda,

Thank you very much for visiting and posting, also, Merry Christmas. :D

Just to be clear, I do not doubt that you are Christian or that your ancestry is/was Christian, this isn't to debate who is Christian or anything of the sorts.

I am glad that you are looking for answers to why it is wrong, etc. We all must look at scripture and allow the Spirit to talk to us and tell us what it means. By all means, continue your search for the truth.

With almost every interpretation of scripture... some will have a problem with it... it is just a fact of differing POVs of the same words. So I am not surprised that you see flaws, etc. I welcome the discussion.

Ah, my apologies for missing comments... I try to reply to each one individually, but alas, I am not perfect. :D

Let's see what you have here:
--- BEGIN STEVE'S REPLY ---
@Steve,

Apologies for missing your comment.

Pertaining to cussing and cursing... as I've mentioned several times, it is the character of Christ that we are trying to mimic. We as Christians, our goal is to be more Christ-like. With that being said, do you believe that Christ would talk like the world does to His friends using the world's cuss words? Of course not... He treats His family with love and respect. Aside from that... would you cuss at your kids, parents, siblings, or grandparents?

Something I hadn't spoken much about... desensitizing. We know that the world chooses some words to be profane. If we are to mimic Christ, why do we allow ourselves to use them? If we continually use them in our daily language, toward ourselves or toward others, it is in our nature to use them more often, the more you use something the more of a habit, or even an addiction, happens.... and eventually in a negative manner (usually not intended but by accident). Most are not monitoring every word out of their mouth and have spoken out of context, by mistake or out of habit.

As for cursing the fig tree... several things:
1. We are not Christ. Christ knows what He can do and how to do it and, most importantly, when to do it.
2. We are far from being Christ-like.
3. Because we are not Christ or Christ-like, we don't know how to use all that we have authority to use or know when to use it.
4. Since 1, 2, and 3 are applied, for us to use any of the things that Christ does before we have the knowledge to use them isn't just foolish but very damaging.

As for your argument; "then why are you here (on the internet)?", it is foolish in its very context. Why do I do the things the world does like paying my bills, driving, being on the internet, eating, buy things, etc. Being in the world is no one's choice, being of the world is. There is a difference between being in and being of the world. I am here trying to get others to think before they talk. To do their research before commenting and making statements. I am being in the world trying to spread His Word and do the things He instructs me to. I am not being of the world doing what the current fad is or participating in everything the world does.

This makes a pretty good explanation:
http://www.bible-knowledge.com/in-world-not-of-it/

Question for Steve (and Amanda):
Do you think it is more or less effective for a person to spread His love and Word by relating to the people who need it?
Do you think that by taking drugs that you would be better able to reach drug addicts?
How about abortion, to reach mother's who have aborted their babies, do you have to do it as well to relate to them?
Or the criminal in jail, do you have to do what they did to relate?

Doing what others of this world do will not help you or anyone in spreading His Word. Now being in this world is being a brother and sister and showing His love to others who are in need. Being in and of are not the same.
John 17:13-16
Romans 12:2
(BTW, thanks for these, I've added them to the article contents above.)

What Christ did was not 'of' the world but 'in' the world.

How I feel doesn't mean anything if I don't train myself to do what He says in His Word. I can feel all I want, in the end if I do not try to understand His Word and apply it... my destination would be the same as those who have not accepted Christ since I have not followed His commandments. I might as well be another hypocrite Christian and call myself a Christian for my benefit instead of actually trying to love according to His Word and applying it daily.

I appreciate your honesty in advocating the negative stance on this.

Agreed that we need not offend... however it is very clear that we ARE NOT to comply when it is against God's Word.

As for your 2nd statement: desensitizing is important enough to make note and try to adhere to what the Bible does say about it. If we are to keep our speech clean... that pertains to all speech not just the speech in front of others.

Your 3rd point also proves my point. Even though we, as parents or adults, both believe that children should not be cussing or cussed at. How is it any different between that 5 year old and a 15 or 25 year old?

Both the words used, because the world chose them, and their intent are both important to note. You can easily offend others with the world's words and therefore compromise the message you send to others as a Christian. The intent of any word makes it either negative/damaging or positive/healing. It doesn't have to be the world's choice of words to full your mouth with negative and unrighteous speech.

God bless you Steve and Merry Christmas,
Johnathan
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--- BEGIN PAOLO'S REPLY ---
@Paolo,

Apologies for missing your comment.

The verse's I've posted talk more than just cursing or swearing. It is dealing will all speech.

Agreed that the English language has changed over time, no doubt. With any word, old or new, if used in an unrighteous manner is wrong. Whether that is cussing, cursing, swearing, (in today's terms) etc. it is wrong of a Christian as it is not in Christ's character. Using today's words of profanity do nothing but hurt ourselves and those who hear it.

As for 'accepting it' is concerned; we are to monitor all that we speak, think, and promote to be sure it is always in context of His Word. When we move away from His Word and start to 'be of this world' and do our own thing we have to be clear that we are not following what He wants for us.

What 'we' consider to be wrong or right doesn't matter... all that does matter is what He considers wrong or right and tells us in His Word.

Please explain the context of righteous and unrighteous speech?
What does the world's profane words apply, are they righteous or unrighteous?
To say that something is out of context you have to be able to explain why.

Paolo, you've just proven my point with your statement:
"these cuss words are associated with "bad people" and non-Christians will call swearing Christians hypocrites so I believe it's best to avoid using them. Most importantly our words should be used to glorify God and edify other believers, so it's not going to hurt you to cut this out of your vocabulary.

Remember we're accountable for every idle word, and I'd rather use my words to praise my Saviour."

God bless you Paolo and Merry Christmas,
Johnathan
--- END PAOLO'S REPLY ---

How is it that today's cussing is ok as long as the intent is harmless? If I say F this and F that... but don't mean anything by it... how is it OK? If an unsaved person who is interested in knowing who Christ is and I am cussing up a storm... how does that help my case, because I can relate to their speech? We are not to be of this world just in it doing His work. Do you seriously think that Christ would cuss in today's language just to win a soul?

Lastly, a slip here and there is no problem as long as you repent. The command to repent from your sins goes for Christians as well as would-be Christians. This walk with Christ is a continual one. A Christian isn't a Christian as soon as they are addiction free, or is completely perfect in all they do according to His Word, it takes time to train our mind, body and heart to want the things Christ wants.

We have to continually keep His Word on our mind in order to become more like Him. Being Christian is a journey, we don't automatically get to our destination once we are saved. It takes work and dedication to His Word to be a Christian.

I hope and pray that you really take what I've posted to heart and continue your research and inquiring of the Holy Spirit about this topic. You are of course welcome to comment again. :D

To be righteous is to be righteous in all we do... not only part of the time.

God bless and Merry Christmas,
Johnathan

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@Roberta,

Thank you for visiting and commenting and Merry Christmas!

Can you please post scripture of your assumption of speaking in tongues? Taking the word of a 'reliable source' is not the same as reading and understanding His Word. I'd take God over any person or 'reliable source' any day.

In order to relate to someone, you don't have to be doing the things they are doing. Even the most heinous person will talk to you if you are able to use the right words to reach their heart. This can be done without cussing at them.

Using the world's profanity to glorify God... I don't see how that would honor Him knowing that the world uses those same words to cuss at Him. Also, chances are you've used those same words to cuss at Him as well.

No one said the truth doesn't hurt. I said that cussing isn't apart of Christian character.

Sometimes it takes direct words to get someone to realize their wrong doing and that they need God and Christ's gift of salvation.

Sometimes it takes much more cunning words to reach them. You have to let the Spirit guide you on that on a per person basis.

God bless and Merry Christmas,
Johnathan
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# Andrea Kline 2012-01-12 12:50
Hi Johnathan,

I'm new to this sight and everything that you've been saying has been on point, and I just want to thank you for summing up why Christians shouldn't use profanity, growing up in a home where my parents never cursed in front of my sisters an I, knows that they were doing right in the sight of the Lord, now my dad is a Minister of our church has been since he was in his twentys and now he is 60yrs old and my mom had been in the church since she was a teenager. I have a question, if you're a Christian and you curse habitally and you repent, but still do it, what does the bible speak about that,My in-laws curse like sailors and they attend church every Sunday, but when they come out they are rolling with the profanity, now I have cursed because of my surroundings before, but I prayed and asked for forgivness and stopped, but there are those that still do it and call themselves Christians.

Thanks,
Andrea
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# Rich C 2012-01-14 19:57
Johnathan, while I disagree with you overall, I am happy to see that at least one other person understands that the intended meaning is more important than the actual word. I used to work with a Mormon woman who always said "piddle" when something went wrong or she got frustrated, and she didn't understand when I told her that she was cussing.

Since this thread is so long, I did not read most of it. I apologize if I mention things you've already covered.

I think it's disingenuous to apply modern definitions to translations of translations of translations of ancient Hebrew and Greek (Koine, to be more accurate) words. You explain things better in some of your later posts, but I think the original post and early comments show that you were thinking of "cursing" and "swearing" as synonyms for "cussing", which they were not.

In a recent response, you said:
"As for cursing the fig tree... several things:
1. We are not Christ. Christ knows what He can do and how to do it and, most importantly, when to do it.
2. We are far from being Christ-like.
3. Because we are not Christ or Christ-like, we don't know how to use all that we have authority to use or know when to use it.
4. Since 1, 2, and 3 are applied, for us to use any of the things that Christ does before we have the knowledge to use them isn't just foolish but very damaging."

Yet you presume to know that Jesus would not cuss under any circumstance. I think it would be reasonable to argue in favor of some form of cussing based on Romans 13:1-2, which basically says that nobody has authority on Earth except what God has granted. In relation to the current discussion, I would say that God would not allow a word to exist unless he intended for people to use it.

Somewhere way up at the beginning of the thread, you mentioned that the Bible is God's word and therefore never changes. I highly recommend reading both "Jesus, Interrupted" and "Misquoting Jesus" by Bart D. Ehrman to clear up that misunderstanding. The thousands of different versions of the Bible in existence today have changed quite a bit over the last 1900 years. Even before then, the book of Chronicles is an obvious attempt to correct parts of Samuel and Kings. The writer would probably be mortified to know that his book was included along with the books he thought contained errors instead of as a replacement for them.

Please don't feel the need to respond to this post for my benefit. It's just a "drive by", as I stumbled upon this page while looking for information.
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# Johnathan Morlock 2012-01-15 03:33
@Rich C

Thank you very much for your visit and for the comments.

Obviously we don't completely disagree as we agree that the intent is important. :D

The original words used are used differently in today's language; however, when you cuss, is it also not similar to curse at whatever you cussed at?

As for Romans 13:1-2, the basic response is that if you can resist authority (i.e. God, etc.) then the idea is that you can even come up with your own thoughts and things come from them. God does rule all existance, but He has chosen to allow us the authority of choosing Him or not.. and therefore we have the authority to accept or deny His ways. Satan corrupts what God has made... he continues to do so even with the spoken word.

The translations changes (interrpretation of God's Word), God's Word does not change.

You are correct that the translations are different and many.... but again those are translations and they are biased toward the vocabulary of the times in which they are translated and by the translator.

You are welcome back anytime you'd with Rich C, I enjoyed responding and would also enjoy a continuation if you'd like.

@Andrea,

Thank you very much for your comments!

I am glad that God can use this to bless others and help them in their walk with Christ.

To your question...
Being a Christian is a constant struggle with everything that is around us. From our friends and family, to past behavior and addictions, to the media and their attempts to sway us one direction or twelve... we are always struggling to do the right thing in God's eyes.

Your question reminds me of a group of verse:
1 Thessalonians 5:6-24

Notice a theme in that group... look at verse 15:
"15 See that none gives evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue the good, both towards one another and towards all."

It is a constant work in us that Christ is molding our spirits to be like Him. He works on us and changes us from the inside to rule the outside.

We are Christians... believing that we are sinners saved by Grace... but it is a journey and sometimes we will hit a bump in the road or even take the wrong turn (meaning we will sin but must repent and mend our ways to His)... keep your eyes on Him and continually pray for His guidence and seek His face when you need Him... especially if you have sinned and seek repentance.

See Romans 7:14-25.

Eventhough the wording is slightly cryptic, it is easily seen that the sin nature that we are all born with still wars with our new creature even after being saved.

This walk is a journey... keep your eyes on Him, when you sin... repent, when sin is near you... pray, when you feel the need to sin, cry out to Him to show you the path and give you the courage to follow it. He will guide you and keep you... as long as you keep Him.

I pray this does help you with you walk and that He was able to speak through these words to you.

God bless,
Johnathan
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# Samuel_jacob 2012-08-08 00:01
Everyone makes a valid point,
Consider this if youre thinking it's okay to cuss only when you're alone.. That means you're offending the holy spirit still.
Even if that wasn't the case, you're adapting to these words that bring a reflection of who YOU are.

I'd know this because I'm a LIVING EXAMPLE of this scenario.
If in doubt, stay out.. Wouldn't it be logical to better your own character and be safe with not offending Jesus?



Lord forgive me for my wrongs,
Thank you for those who have eyes to see.

Help us understand your truth and beauty Father!
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# Lane 2012-12-20 18:14
Merriam - Webster dictionary defines the word Christian as someone who believes in the teachings of Christ. Believing it and living it are two different things. Satan even believes in the teachings of Christ. I don't even like the word Christian. Hell is full of Christians, Muslims, Hindu's and atheists. The right word for a true follower of Christ is...a disciple of Christ. Matt. 7:22 says "many will say Lord Lord, but I will say, depart from Me, I don't know you." Guard what comes out of your mouth. That means slander, swearing and gossip is not of the Lord.
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# Tandy 2013-01-14 22:47
:lol: really enjoyed this point of view! Going to see my x mother in law on Friday....need to remind myself. Thanks a bunch and God Bless!
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# bubba 2013-03-13 21:39
Hi, i didnt have time to read all the comments because there are so many. but i thought id share my thoughts on the subject. i persomally feel that using words such as the f bomb are infact a sin because the definition and implication is "sex without love" and therefore can have no good meaning to it. plus, i just know from my own experiences that language like that coming from your mouth or even coming from your tv, makes you into a very unhappy person.
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# Dan 2013-03-18 19:07
Everyone,

Listen. We all know cussing is bad. Its prohibited on school, on sites, in the office FOR A REASON. Christ wouldn't want this. Can you honestly say Christ would ever want us cussing? No. Those words are sinful against God and Christ. We all know its dirty. Even if not directed to someone the meaning of cuss words is to demean or disrespect. No one should ever use their GIFT OF SPEECH that way. Profanity by definition are dirty words. We were created by God to be good, caring people, just like Christ wants, and I WOULD NEVER WANT ANYTHING SO VILE AND DISGUSTING COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH!
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# Magan P 2013-07-01 12:08
I wanted to add in a few points. I have read a few of these comments and replies and wanted to re-ask what you consider cursing to be?

Now I'm not saying using profane language (not curse words, or words used to curse/damn/wish death upon someone such as the d word and sometimes the F word, per say but language that society considers inappropriate) is something that should be acceptable at this point in time, but that there should be verification as to what cursing really means. God in the bible did not mean that using certain words was unacceptable, but that using words in a means to curse your brother/sister was inappropriate. You can still use words acceptable by society to curse someone. It does not matter if someone uses the s* word or p* word or any other word that society considers profane. To God it matters as to how our words, no matter what they are, are used. Any and all words should be used to praise Him.

Now concerning the use of profane words in our current time, in context it should not matter if they are used or not. However considering the fact that those words are deemed as disrespectful to certain people, then to best glorify God and to best set ourselves apart from the world, it is good to not say those words at all. Some could say that they only need to worry about not using those words in public, but the best way to prevent those words from slipping out is to refrain from saying them entirely.

Maybe later in time when those words are not seen as disrespectful by anyone then it would be ok to use them as long as they are not used to curse or wish death/illness/bad things upon someone else. However in this current day and age, those words are still considered disrespectful and God calls us to love and respect out neighbor. That is the only reason why we should not use profane words.

This is my opinion on the matter.
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# johnathanamber 2014-02-05 01:08
Megan,

Thank you very much for stopping by and apologies for taking too long in replying.

My point stands in that we are not to be a stumbling block and are to act Christ-like as He is our perfect image that we should copy. Christ would not use the world's profanity to express His anger, or to speak to another. He tells us to love one another. This includes our speech toward others. Would you want to show others that you love that you can't tame your tongue? Or perhaps if you are attempting to talk to someone about Christ's love but that same person hears to cussing regularly even for sport?

It is about perception as well as character. Cussing is not His character and it should not be ours as well.

As I've mentioned previously, if the world has certain words that are profane, we should not use them regardless. There is no fruit in it. There is no reason to even appear to others that we use those same words in our speech as that is a stumbling block for others and for us to proclaim His Name.

Your last statement sums it up well:
"However in this current day and age, those words are still considered disrespectful and God calls us to love and respect out neighbor. That is the only reason why we should not use profane words."

I may have to revise this article at some point. if nothing else to make things more clear.

Thank you very much for coming by.

God bless,
Johnathan
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# Valencia 2013-07-07 22:49
Did Apostle Paul who wrote over 2/3 of the scriptures...ever say the word dung which means *hit?
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# johnathanamber 2014-02-05 00:59
Hey Valencia,

You are referring to Philippians 3:8. Check out this link:
https://bible.org/article/brief-word-study-skuvbalon

As far as 'modern' translations actually relating to word to being today's crude term for poop, it simply a word with more emotion behind it.

Regardless if you take this word to be profane or not, take the context in which it is being used. Here is the verse:
Philippians 3:8 (NKJV)

"8 Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ"

There would be no reason for an expletive in its context. Even if it was meant with a more forciful intent, there would be no reason for Paul to use profanity of that time. Also, you'd have to remember that all words were lead by the spirit and Christ certainly would not direct Paul to use profanity especially since it would contradict His own words to not be a stumbling block for others.

God bless,
Johnathan
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# Winter 2013-08-14 03:09
:lol: :-) hi Johnathan :) thanks for explaining everything. I really needed too read about what I was curious about. So much love, Winter.
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# Rae 2013-12-27 04:12
I want to tell movie producers, writers, sponsors, networks, the FCC that saying God and damn together is wrong and needs to stop. I find it very hurtful, trashy, and disrespectful, regardless of the religion/belief. Cant we just leave God out of it?
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# johnathanamber 2014-02-05 00:39
Rae,

Thanks for stopping by and reading.

You can easily write a letter to the FCC voicing your concerns. If you can find petitions and others who are willing to do the same, you can get with them and send your letters all at once, which will provide a good nudge in the right directions.

I agree with you. If nothing else, it shouldn't be said if to not offend those who do believe in God.

I find cussing to be just trashy fillers for writers that aren't that well versed in the English language, or writing for that matter. Just my opinion.

God bless,
Johnathan
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# phoenix 2014-01-30 17:17
I have a question. So I am a Christian and I do not cuss. But I am writing a novel and some of my characters probably would cuss because that's just the kind of people some of them are. So is it a sin for me to have my characters cuss in a book?
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# johnathanamber 2014-02-05 00:50
Hey Phoenix,

Thanks for stopping by and reading.

What does God tell you about it? He dwells within you as a Christian guiding you in your steps that you decide to listen to or not.

With that being said, do you think it is apart of Christian nature to use the world's profanity? The only sense that I can see that would be of any benefit is the study of the words and their history or origin. Other than that, it is my opinion based on scripture that they shouldn't be used.

Take this scenarios, for instance. You write this book. It becomes a bestseller, which would be cool, right? Well if those who really like you find out you are Christian, what do you think they'll say or think when they determine that you wrote the book and cussed in it?

I've read several books where the author used narrational phrases to depict frustration and explatives in the actors of the novel. Take these examples for instance:
"As he turned the corner and was suddently met by many masked children, he cursed as he addressed them."
"In a bout of frustration be reared his head and cursed God above."

As you can see, you don't have to actually use any profanity to get the point across. In all reality, it took me a couple of seconds for each phrase above to be more creative in writing them. This will not only help you as a Christian walking with Christ, but it will also empower your creative talents to write well.

It is my opinion, and I really enjoy, detailed and riveting books and scripts on shows and movies where the author doesn't use profanity, but instead shows the real emotion of the actors. It shows real creativity and a lack to want to cut corners and really show off their talents and get down to the emotion of the scene.

God bless you and your works,
Johnathan
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